Hitting to Heavy for a first timer?

[NFG123]

I talked to a friend online tonight. Previously I had been thinking about running 400 mg deca / week x 10 weeks.

He suggested this cycle. Also, arimidex is just out of my price range. Tell me if I shouldnt do this cycle cause I cannot afford it.

Week 1-10

Sustanon 250 - 250 mg / week
Deca Durabolin - 400 mg / week

Week 1 - 4

Dbol 25 mg day

Weeks 1 - 17

50 mg Clomid ed

Too much? Too obvious?

NFG

 

[MadCow1]

Don't do this cycle - you don't have the money.

If cost is an issue - why not run just the dbol and test (both cheap) or just test.

 

[NFG123]

Haha,

Sorry I meant tell me if I shouldnt do this cycle cause I cannot afford it as in the arimidex. I can afford all of the gear listed and nolva and clomid, but running arimidex even at .5 mg ed for the cycle is just too much. I can also use ECA after the cycle to get the HPTA back up (bill roberts suggestion). But should I not do this cycle just cause I cant afford the anastozole?

Also, is this too much gear for a first cycle?

NFG

 

[The Terminator]

If cost is an issue then drop the deca. If you can't afford this gear then you won't be able to afford the loads of food that will be needed with it. Better start saving.

 

[NFG123]

Hey.

Yeah-Im gonna save.

I was planning on buying the gear-then buying all the protein I will need for it-most of it in the 10 lb bag of whey kind ($50 from dps).

Also, the food I can afford. Ive been eating roughly 400 cals a day and 1 g protein / lb of bodyweight for the past 6 months, I can belt down and eat more brown rice and hit for 5000 cals a day and more protein without too much crunch on the wallet ...

 

[NFG123]

make that 4000 cals a day ive been eating.

 

[The Terminator]

Sorry man our posts came up at the same time. I would use that cycle without the arimidex, but you should atleast keep some nolvadex on you.

 

[Charles Ray]

Clomid for 17 weeks?!?!

The Sus with the Deca sounds fine. I doubt u'll actually need the dbol. If it were up to me I'd save the dbol for a second cycle. What are your stats though??

I would buy some novaldex just in case.

And u really don't need clomid thru out the whole cycle. U should start it 3 weeks after your last sus and deca shot(because sus and deca both last in your system for about 21 days). And I wouldn't run the clomid for more than 2-3 weeks.


Have fun

 

[Twitched]

Save up for a while and buy arimidex..


I think testosterone and dianabol without it would be very foolish IMO.


twitched

 

[FarBeyondDriven]

Armidex is great if you are doing over 1,000 mg of test a week. 250 a week of sust, I would not sweat it.
The Dave's Power Store ISP house brand, that is bunk man. It is full of gums. You will notice that in how it clumps up real bad. I started to grow alot better once I started to buy quality supps. EAS, MetRx, Mucle-Tech, and will even throw in some Triple Threat. Sure you pay for the names, but you also are paying for quality. Like the difference between buying a Diawoo coupe or a Corvette.

 

[Mike P.T.]

I can also use ECA after the cycle to get the HPTA back up (bill roberts suggestion).

Where the hell does Bill Philips get the idea that running the ECA stack will help with the HPTA???!!!! Please Huck, Zyg, Quad or Panerai correct me if im wrong on this one but I have NEVER heard this in my life before. Im wondering because doesn'tthe eca stack actually interfere with test production? That's why some people get the "eca" dick. I actually read in studies that it does lower test levels to a degree so where does bill get the idea that it increases it. Hey NFG123, where did u read that?

 

[NFG123]

Haha

Sorry, I meant Bill Roberts:

<<Ephedrine/clenbuterol: It is possible that the beta agonist activities of these drugs may assist in recovery. Personally, I do recommend the use of ephedrine post-cycle to those who can use it. Clenbuterol has the same effect but acts around the clock, having a longer half life, and allowing a higher effective dose (amount times potency) due to having less relative effect on beta receptors in the heart. I am not sure that clenbuterol has any better effect with regard to recovery though.>>

Quoted from: http://www.meso-rx.com/articles/pharmacology/recovery-of-natural-testosterone-production.htm