High Estrogen on 600mg Enanthate

[xavier9550]

So I'm in my third week of a Test only cycle (300 mg twice a week).
Just felt it "kick in" a few days ago. Already gained 10lbs.

Stats are :
Age 38
Height 6'4"
Weight 220lbs
BF 17.5%

Everything is going great except that estradiol levels
are way too high, and libido is way down.

Current levels are 576 pmol/L. Normal levels are <150.
(Converted to pg/ml = 157 pg/ml)

I only have access to arimidex so I was wondering what
dosage should I use? I was thinking 1mg/day until levels
get down to normal, then .5mg eod.

Also, what estradiol number should I shoot for? (T/E ratio)
(I dont have my Test numbers yet)

Thanks

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[xavier9550]

Only side effect so far is that I seem to get a
bit emotional which is a bit weird. For example,
I just finished watching "Its a Wonderful Life" and
I actually starting tearing up a bit at the end of the movie.
Lol. But no itchy or sore nips.

 

[dylangemelli]

Only side effect so far is that I seem to get a
bit emotional which is a bit weird. For example,
I just finished watching "Its a Wonderful Life" and
I actually starting tearing up a bit at the end of the movie.
Lol. But no itchy or sore nips.

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that's because your estrogen is out of whack... this is a PRIME EXAMPLE of why running a cycle with too high of body fat is so bad and that's exactly what your doing... your really just causing yourself more and more problems by doing this... your body fat is too high man... you should not be cycling steroids... please watch my video on this topic... http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...body-fat-new-video-dylan-gemelli-1278893.html

 

[Zyglamail]

Very few people can take 600mg test a week and not have elevated estrogen, not sure why everyone assumes they dont need an AI. We see posts like yours almost daily and I am dumbfounded as to where everyone is getting their info.

I started TRT (100mg test + hcg weekly) on 1mg adex 2 times a week to control E, after some time that dose because a little too much. So with that in mind if I were you I would do 1mg EOD since your on 600mg week test

Crashing your E levels isnt ideal but certainly wont kill you over the course of a cycle. On the other hand ignorance regarding the need for an AI can get you a nice set of man boobs.

Also note an aromatase inhibitor isnt going to do anything for the large amount of E already in your system it will only reduce the amount thats produced going forward so its going to take some time for the buildup you have to metabolize.

 

[25homes]

take the adex like you said 1mg day for about 7 days then .5mg eod should do the trick

 

[xavier9550]

Thanks guys. I'm surprised 17.5% BF is considered
high. I thought it was actually a decent starting point
based on some studies and research I did.
However your advice does make sense.

The 10 lbs I gained so far doesnt seem to be fat gain,
but I haven't lost any fat either.

Getting the estrogen down with the Adex, and upping
the cardio will hopefully get the BF lower.

Next cycle, I'll defintely start the Adex sooner. I just kept
it on hand in case of gyno symptoms which doesnt seem
to be the best strategy.

 

[eddymerckx]

take the adex like you said 1mg day for about 7 days then .5mg eod should do the trick

adex only prevents new E--does nothing for existing e--but take it as a preventative.

as for existing do more cardio and watch the sodium intake.

 

[dylangemelli]

Thanks guys. I'm surprised 17.5% BF is considered
high. I thought it was actually a decent starting point
based on some studies and research I did.
However your advice does make sense.

The 10 lbs I gained so far doesnt seem to be fat gain,
but I haven't lost any fat either.

Getting the estrogen down with the Adex, and upping
the cardio will hopefully get the BF lower.

Next cycle, I'll defintely start the Adex sooner. I just kept
it on hand in case of gyno symptoms which doesnt seem
to be the best strategy.

no offense bro, but 17.5 is terrible... that's not even close to a good starting point...

when you have a high body fat like that, you are much more prone to estrogen conversion... at this point, adex is not what you want... it merely suppresses estrogen... you need aromasin to kill it off...

 

[Jigga14]

If you started your cycle at 6'4 and 210 lbs and 17.5% bf then you didn't have much of a base to begin with. You could have kept gaining with food and training.

I'm 6'2, 240 lb and 12% bf and I still consider myself to be on the light side.