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nzafi

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Who has some nice home audio systems setup?I used to be in the hobby, but left because it was too damn expensive. Current system was about 3k but its crap. Polk speakers,velodyne sub, and Onyko a/v reciever.....future system when i start working full time will probably be rotel seperates with Paradigm's top speakers the studio 100s......a good 7k would be enough to set something up....if i had 30k i would go with revel speakers and higher end seperates...
 
I love polk speakers- i have a sourround sound using 5 polk/amplified speakers spent about 6 grand on spkrs alone-got that hooked to a Carver am.
Best system i've had to date-really wakes up that 72" big screen mitsubishi. :)

RADAR
 
polk speakers are actually poorly made.....ive had some minor problems with mine, but if you open them up, you will see the wires used inside and other parts are very cheap materials.....thats because they are just shipped off a line.......for 6k you could have bought some nice high end speakers....
 
Quad Amp
Quad Tuner
Quad pre-amp
Kef speakers.
 
Parasound 2205 Amp 220 wpc
Onkyo 787 6.1 as pre amp
Paradigm Studio speakers (40`s with Par stands) Center Studio rear Par`s (in-ceiling)
Paradigm Servo 15 sub
Pioneer Elite 301 DVD player
Better Cables all around... Silver Serpent
50" Toshiba Cinema Series

Rather watch movies at home than a theater... Priceless.




house is wired for "whole house" audio video distibution. Ran category 5 and RG 6 quad shield cables everywhere. I only have 2 locations working now though. Deck and Master bedroom.
 
My kick-ass state-of-the-art audio setup:
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bose is just about the worst thing that you can buy next to something like KLH.....bose is made from crappy materials....they spend all their money on marketing....no highs no lows gotta be bose.......feel sorry for anyone that buys them
 
LOL .. nzafi is cuttin down any brand that anyone posts.
 
ColonCowboy said:
LOL .. nzafi is cuttin down any brand that anyone posts.

No its true, Bose is strictly for suckers, do a search youll see what I mean...they charge 5 times more than brands that perform better...its a big joke in the industry...smoke and mirrors marketing. They never publish specs on their equipment btw.
 
Its a matter of taste and what kind of music you listen to. Bose is awful because the speakers are tiny. In order to properly reproduce sounds waves you need speakers of multiple sizes.....very accurate speakers for classical music and jazz you go for B&W, revel, martin logan....so about 3k for two speakers and up, but they sell bookshelf speakers cheaper....paradigm's reference series is excellent for the price.......if you listen to techno or house music, B&W, revel wont cut it, they are not designed to play such music......better off with something like klipsch that is very efficiecnt.....you can get klipsch speakers that have an efficiency of 105db while b&w is like 87db.......in order for an audible difference you need an increase of 3db and to increase you need to double wattage because wattage is based on a logrithmic scale....so for klipsch
1 watt = 105db
2 watts = 108db
4 watts = 111 db
8 watts = 114 db
for B&W
1 watt = 87db
2 watts = 90db
4 watts = 93db
8 watts =96db
16 watts = 99db
32 watts = 102db
64 watts = 105db
128 watts = 108db
256 watts = 111 db
512 watts = 114db

you see how much more power you need to run the two speakers......but klispch wont come close to B&W for accuracy.....

now if you want the ultimate go with this...if you can afford it
http://www.bwspeakers.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/products.models/label/Model Nautilus
 
nzafi said:
Its a matter of taste and what kind of music you listen to. Bose is awful because the speakers are tiny. In order to properly reproduce sounds waves you need speakers of multiple sizes.....very accurate speakers for classical music and jazz you go for B&W, revel, martin logan....so about 3k for two speakers and up, but they sell bookshelf speakers cheaper....paradigm's reference series is excellent for the price.......if you listen to techno or house music, B&W, revel wont cut it, they are not designed to play such music......better off with something like klipsch that is very efficiecnt.....you can get klipsch speakers that have an efficiency of 105db while b&w is like 87db.......in order for an audible difference you need an increase of 3db and to increase you need to double wattage because wattage is based on a logrithmic scale....so for klipsch
1 watt = 105db
2 watts = 108db
4 watts = 111 db
8 watts = 114 db
for B&W
1 watt = 87db
2 watts = 90db
4 watts = 93db
8 watts =96db
16 watts = 99db
32 watts = 102db
64 watts = 105db
128 watts = 108db
256 watts = 111 db
512 watts = 114db

you see how much more power you need to run the two speakers......but klispch wont come close to B&W for accuracy.....

now if you want the ultimate go with this...if you can afford it
http://www.bwspeakers.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/products.models/label/Model Nautilus



Great post. You know your stuff. Also the question one has to ask is how much are you willing to spend? THAT is essential. Anyone can say get ML`s or even B&w`s but it`s costly.

Love my Paradigms. Do you have 2 channel or surround?

I would get 2 if I could do it again instead of the surround system. Instead of 40`s I`d get the 100`s with a beaut of an amp. enough for me.
 
i have a 27in monitor for my computer so i use that as my tv, so i have to put up with 2.1 computer speakers....my home theatre speakers are at my parents, i pretty much gave them to my father, need to set them up one day.....they are 5.1 though..........for me I would love to set up a 5.1 system.......you can get a channel system that will rock a 5.1 system because of how good the imaging is....but now youre talking expensive speakers.....i have listened to the paradigm studio 100s, they are very nice speakers, and have excellent build quality....they get compared to high-end speakers by B&W,revel,etc.....alot of audiophiles consider paradigm midend not highend speakers.....revel f30s are amazing too, but ugly
 
anabolicmd said:


Id go with B&W speakers, Denon or Yamaha amps...

I would go for a British or American amp over a Japanese amp.... Denon amps can be good, but Yamaha amps often sound very average... Technics amps are awful..

My favoutie mid-end hi-fi: Arcam, Musical Fidelity, NAD, Harman Kardon, Cyrus, Rotel... makes like QUAD are hi-end and do sound very nice..

As for speakers, again I'd go for American or British: Mission, Monitor Audio, Tannoy... I love Monitor Audio's.. I hope to afford some soon...

And BOSE are the joke of the hi-fi world - it is true.

My system is modest but very good, warm, and thumpy: Arcam Alpha 10 100W/ch, Mission M74 2 way floorstanding speakers, Denon DCD835 CDP, MAudio Audiophile soundcard.... only cost about £1000 and gives me much enjoyment...

I am a bit of a hi-fi geek, so I have filled the CDP up with 2kg of dynamat and blu tack in an effort to deaden virbrations and so help keep clock jitter to a minimum. I have also covered the back of the soundcard with blu tack.. I am a geek...
 
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nzafi said:
i have a 27in monitor for my computer so i use that as my tv, so i have to put up with 2.1 computer speakers....my home theatre speakers are at my parents, i pretty much gave them to my father, need to set them up one day.....they are 5.1 though..........for me I would love to set up a 5.1 system.......you can get a channel system that will rock a 5.1 system because of how good the imaging is....but now youre talking expensive speakers.....i have listened to the paradigm studio 100s, they are very nice speakers, and have excellent build quality....they get compared to high-end speakers by B&W,revel,etc.....alot of audiophiles consider paradigm midend not highend speakers.....revel f30s are amazing too, but ugly

You can talk junk all you like-- i've been in the electronics business 32 yrs...polk is premium.

RADAR (CET) Certified Electronics technician
 
I have a b&w setup in oc, here i run all paradigm w/ yamaha receiver and marantz tube amps... I am quite happy at this point w/ b&w... I couldnt' afford matching center/rears for my paradigm fronts (st. 100s)
 
i have not listened to Quad speakers.......most speakers that you find at a circuit city or best buy or not usually great speakers.....Infinity used to be a favorite of many but over the years their quality has dwindled......Radar you obviously havent listened to quality speakers.....I have a pair of polk tower speakers and I have heard their top speakers......their speakers are just not of good build quality......and as i said before alot also depends on personal taste.....it all varies on the type of sound you are looking for
 
nzafi said:
i have not listened to Quad speakers.......most speakers that you find at a circuit city or best buy or not usually great speakers.....Infinity used to be a favorite of many but over the years their quality has dwindled......Radar you obviously havent listened to quality speakers.....I have a pair of polk tower speakers and I have heard their top speakers......their speakers are just not of good build quality......and as i said before alot also depends on personal taste.....it all varies on the type of sound you are looking for

I own polk's top of the line tower speakers,but i'm not defending polk because of that-i have been in the music/recording business as long-& longer than i've been a technician. I spent over 6 months reviewing & listening to speakers before deciding upon the polk towers.
Like you say-everyone has their preferences,these are mine,and i can bet you a 1000 dollar bill that my ears are more musically inclined than yours!
Anyway i've had my say- i'm outta this debate!!!! See Yall!!!!!


RADAR (CET)
 
well...anyone that i have spoken to that has much better ears than me and far superior knowledge than me, has shared a similar opinion as fine.....people who test speakers andampliers that exceed 100k, and they will tell you that you can find speakers that are superior to polk at the same price level
 
I have Bose and my shit sounds off the hook.
My digital surround is crazy, I hear everything.
When I jam Music I can turn it up 40% without knocking pictures off the wall. Say what you want mine works fine.
 
sh4dowf4lcon said:
I have Bose and my shit sounds off the hook.
My digital surround is crazy, I hear everything.
When I jam Music I can turn it up 40% without knocking pictures off the wall. Say what you want mine works fine.

As long as you arent trying to pawn it off on someone else, Im cool.
 
ZKaudio said:
bose is overpriced, underpowered, undersized, and overhyped.

I cant think of any product that is as overpriced, in any industry.
 
My bedroom system is a NAD setup, 541 cd player, c-270 amp, 1140 pre-amp, hooked to some coustom made bookshelf monitors. Its sounds great, very airy.

My Home theater is Klipsch Reference 3 series with a Velofyne 15" sub. Along with my Mistu plat 48" big screen it make going to the movie theater a waste of time. Oh, the electronics are a Onkyo receiver, Sony NS-755 dvd/sacd player (actually very good unit for the price)

Nothing high end, but then i think the high end is silly. I visit Sound Force on Ventura here in LA, they sell da best stuff, and while i can appreciate it, the $$$ is just not justified.

I still need to visit CES in Vegas to listen to more high end tho.
 
Shit what ever happened to some big ass Vega's lol. Those B&W's are some $$$$, so Paradigm is good, I always liked Denon stuff, what about a good site that compares or sells some of this?
 
Polk is like a Blaupunkt car stereo. It's what you get when you think you know good stuff but really don't.
 
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Thats a pretty nice setup you have Mordy....audioreview.com is an excellent site.....well put dialtone.....and also, they purpose behind most music is not to shake the walls and break windows.....most people that buy high end speakers for that purpose are disappointed.....youre after efficient speakers............there is a sub by rel though that they actually make you sign a contract when you buy it that states they are not liable for any structural damage that it does to your house.....dont remember which one, but it goes down to about 15hz and actually hits that low.....not like most subs that claim to go down to a certain frequency and dont
 
I have this very unit in my home... These are hifi. That means it's the highest quality fidelty you can get...... Now I know it's one thing to hear it from Bucks mouth, but it's a whole other to hear it from the tk421..... hear that? feel the bass? it curls up in your belly, makes you feel freaky deaky. Now if you don't get the tk421 modification it won't sound like that. We do it right here in the store, very small price....
 
Have you heard the SVSubs? They`re supposed to be Very good for the price. They have all ranges and frequencis that you would want.

I would have purchased an SVS if I did`nt already get a Paradigm Servo 15.
 
svs subs are suppose to be very good and also a great bang for the buck.....i beleive you have to buy directly over the internet though.....that way they eliminate the middle man and have cheaper prices.....but you have to be comfortable buying over the internet when you havent even heard it.........i have heard great things about the servo15 and a couple bad things....most time though when people complain its because the sub/speaker does not produce what they want it to produce........whats very tough is finding a sub that is good for both music and movies......if you listen to crystal method, their music goes below 20hz which is inaudible but you still feel it, most movies though only go to about 30hz because the average persson cant hear below 30hz......so far my favorite sub is the velodyne hgs-18.....great sub but pricey at 3k.....
 
Dial_tone said:
Polk is like a Blaupunkt car stereo. It's what you get when you think you know good stuff but really don't.

LOL.. that is so true about Blaupunkt.
 
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