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high dose var?

Bozwell

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Before i skint myself of large amounts of var Id like to hear from people who have done 80-100mg ed I plan on running this for 6-8 weeks with 25mg of proviron and 10g of creatine ..I have done one light test cycle and a light dbol cycle before and am about thirteen and a half stone (190lbs)ish and 23 years old been training for about 5 years now
my goals are as much streanth as possale with not a lot of mass 5-10lbs is good, I dont want to get much bigger just stronger and keep as much of the streanth as possable streanth
cheers
 
I have run 100mgs a day of anavar for 4 and a half weeks so far but i stacked it with tbols the brand is british dragon 10mg tabs got incredible strength gains. Also i see people posting about creatine on here but there is actaully no proven evidence that creatine works and it just fills your muscles up with water soo if your not working out like crazy ur muscles get jiggly. Also buffered creatine works better then the powder that you put in water... I was told by a guy at gnc in buffered creatine u get 80% of what u take and 20% turns into an acid in ur stomach which is actually pretty toxic... The powder you put in water you only get 20% of what you intake and the other 80% turns into a toxic acid in your stomach..

Bozwell said:
Before i skint myself of large amounts of var Id like to hear from people who have done 80-100mg ed I plan on running this for 6-8 weeks with 25mg of proviron and 10g of creatine ..I have done one light test cycle and a light dbol cycle before and am about thirteen and a half stone (190lbs)ish and 23 years old been training for about 5 years now
my goals are as much streanth as possale with not a lot of mass 5-10lbs is good, I dont want to get much bigger just stronger and keep as much of the streanth as possable streanth
cheers
 
plurmurphy said:
I have run 100mgs a day of anavar for 4 and a half weeks so far but i stacked it with tbols the brand is british dragon 10mg tabs got incredible strength gains. Also i see people posting about creatine on here but there is actaully no proven evidence that creatine works and it just fills your muscles up with water soo if your not working out like crazy ur muscles get jiggly. Also buffered creatine works better then the powder that you put in water... I was told by a guy at gnc in buffered creatine u get 80% of what u take and 20% turns into an acid in ur stomach which is actually pretty toxic... The powder you put in water you only get 20% of what you intake and the other 80% turns into a toxic acid in your stomach..

cheers.. I like creatine myself, I use quite a bit and get good gains I must be lucky as I dont suffer from water retention on creatine theres a bit but nothing to bad
how much tbol did yop use and how good were the gains in streanth on your bench ,squat and dead
how long are you running it
sorry for all the questions but I need to find out
 
the tbols i ran for 4 weeks,..
week 1-40mgs tbol and 40mgs anavar
week2-80mgs tbol and 80mgs anavar
week3-80mgs tbol and 80 mgs anavar then halfway through the week i went up to 120mgs of each
week 4-120mgs tbol and 120mgs anavar...
week 5- 80mgs anavar this is the week im on and im going to lower the dosage next week down to 40mgs and then down to 10mgs add some nolvadex then bridge to another cycle. As for creatine it still retains water on anyone because it puts water into your muscles.
i would say my bench press went up a good 35-40kgs
Bozwell said:
cheers.. I like creatine myself, I use quite a bit and get good gains I must be lucky as I dont suffer from water retention on creatine theres a bit but nothing to bad
how much tbol did yop use and how good were the gains in streanth on your bench ,squat and dead
how long are you running it
sorry for all the questions but I need to find out
 
plurmurphy said:
the tbols i ran for 4 weeks,..
week 1-40mgs tbol and 40mgs anavar
week2-80mgs tbol and 80mgs anavar
week3-80mgs tbol and 80 mgs anavar then halfway through the week i went up to 120mgs of each
week 4-120mgs tbol and 120mgs anavar...
week 5- 80mgs anavar this is the week im on and im going to lower the dosage next week down to 40mgs and then down to 10mgs add some nolvadex then bridge to another cycle. As for creatine it still retains water on anyone because it puts water into your muscles.
i would say my bench press went up a good 35-40kgs
Thats a LOT of oral gear there 240mg ed are you having your liver values checked and eating hand fulls of milk thistle?
35kg in 4 weeks is very impressive is this youre 1 rep max or for reps
 
Bozwell said:
Thats a LOT of oral gear there 240mg ed are you having your liver values checked and eating hand fulls of milk thistle?
35kg in 4 weeks is very impressive is this youre 1 rep max or for reps

Impressive at the cost of a grand and his liver. I wouldn't look to his cycle as one to emulate.
 
the cost wasnt that much actaully and yes im taking liv-52,milk thistle,cranberry extract... and that weight i do reps 10 reps 3 sets

stuck said:
Impressive at the cost of a grand and his liver. I wouldn't look to his cycle as one to emulate.
 
Bozwell said:
Before i skint myself of large amounts of var Id like to hear from people who have done 80-100mg ed I plan on running this for 6-8 weeks with 25mg of proviron and 10g of creatine ..I have done one light test cycle and a light dbol cycle before and am about thirteen and a half stone (190lbs)ish and 23 years old been training for about 5 years now
my goals are as much streanth as possale with not a lot of mass 5-10lbs is good, I dont want to get much bigger just stronger and keep as much of the streanth as possable streanth
cheers
I used 40mg of var 50mg of proviron and 10g of creatine and kept 12lbs. Great strength gains and var gives me a pump all day long I never feel tired.
 
Mookie said:
I used 40mg of var 50mg of proviron and 10g of creatine and kept 12lbs. Great strength gains and var gives me a pump all day long I never feel tired.
40mg ed and kept 12lbs with streanth ,did you keep the streanth
and how how long did you run it for?
cheers
 
Bozwell said:
Before i skint myself of large amounts of var Id like to hear from people who have done 80-100mg ed I plan on running this for 6-8 weeks with 25mg of proviron and 10g of creatine ..I have done one light test cycle and a light dbol cycle before and am about thirteen and a half stone (190lbs)ish and 23 years old been training for about 5 years now
my goals are as much streanth as possale with not a lot of mass 5-10lbs is good, I dont want to get much bigger just stronger and keep as much of the streanth as possable streanth
cheers


I ran var last cycle at 100mg/day, kicked ass, been clean for between 2 and 3 months now and still have all the gains, vascularity, hardness everything, next cycle will be the same as the one in my signature
 
diminishing rate of returns higher up you go.

Most (including me) are happy at 40mg/day. Split up into 2 dosages of 20mg each/day.

Some good whey protein, no creatine (sorry but don't want the water bloat) and thermorexin, and you're set.
 
Razorguns said:
diminishing rate of returns higher up you go.

Most (including me) are happy at 40mg/day. Split up into 2 dosages of 20mg each/day.

Some good whey protein, no creatine (sorry but don't want the water bloat) and thermorexin, and you're set.
How did you compare those 40mg of var to 50mg of winy? As far as results.
 
Bozwell said:
40mg ed and kept 12lbs with streanth ,did you keep the streanth
and how how long did you run it for?
cheers
Kept most of my strength I gained 14lbs after pct only lost 2lbs. Ran it for 9 weeks.
 
I torn between 2 choices ,some people are saying 40-50mg ed is enough and some are saying its it not much good below 70ed and amazing at 100mg ed
I dont want to waste my cash on a low dose 40mg ed and get no results
but I dont mind spending if I can get good results
anyone got any more input
if I cant make up my mind Im going to do a test cycle and buy a new bike :mix:
 
Mookie said:
Kept most of my strength I gained 14lbs after pct only lost 2lbs. Ran it for 9 weeks.

would you say this is typical for a var cycle like that?
what was your streanth increase like of you main lifts squat,bench,ect
sorry for all the questions ;)
 
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Bozwell said:
would you say this is typical for a var cycle like that?
what was your streanth increase like of you main lifts squat,bench,ect
sorry for all the questions ;)
No not typical that was before I did any other cycles if I was do to that now I would be happy with 5lbs if I was to run a var only cycle now I would do 60mg ed for 9 weeks. The time I gained the 12lbs that was my fifth var only cycles but the other times I was only running 25mg for 4 weeks because it was for boxing reasons not to gain weight but to keep my strength before a bout. When I was boxing I use to fight at 132lbs and I am 5'9 so I was so drawn out before a fight I would do the var to keep up my strength. The cycle was about 3 years ago I could barely do 225lbs by the end of the cycle I could do it 8 times I can't do squats messes with my knee's. I think 50mg would be fine with the creatine and proviron and with the proper diet you should be happy with the results.
 
BUMP
I myself want to get some powder var and taking 100mg a day for about 6-8 weeks just because my goals of training right now are to harden up, get some lean mass, and stengthen up. Does anyone else have there experiences of high dose var so I have something to judge what my personal results might be similar too, even though I know everyone is different but a lot of people would experience similar results. K to helpful input
 
Razorguns said:
diminishing rate of returns higher up you go.

Most (including me) are happy at 40mg/day. Split up into 2 dosages of 20mg each/day.

Some good whey protein, no creatine (sorry but don't want the water bloat) and thermorexin, and you're set.
Go for a tri creatine malate no water weight gain pure muscle gains.
 
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