high blood pressure

[JDF1972]

Aren't the people on this site that claim they use "gear" afraid of the long term affects like high blood pressure and heart disease that could be avoided all together by staying natural? Every guy I talked to in my gym that used this stuff in the past all say they wish they never did it. Furthermore, I'm told at least once a month from someone to stay away from it.

My brother is a surgical pathologist and said that anabolic steroids, uh sorry I mean "gear", will absolutely without doubt in his mind cause serious health problems that will lead to an ugly and untimely death.

If your on it right now, what's your BP reading?

Flame away........I'd love to hear YOUR comments.

 

[Tux]

I'm on right now, a very STRONG androgen called trenbolone acetate... "Fina" by many. My BP, which I just took, was 118/76, digital readout. 120/80 is normal, mine has never been above normal no matter what I use. And my cholesterol never goes above normal. My bodyfat is less than the average male, my immune system is better, my quality of life overall is much better. Side effects can be avoided not just by avoiding steroids altogether, but by being smart about their usage. My father is an MD, I used to get tests all the time from him, never once was he very concerned about any of my values. Dr.'s opinion? I'm in much better shape than average, and better health as well. Perhaps I will suffer some side effect down the road that I can't forsee, but according to everything medical science and my body are telling me, I'm helping myself, not hurting myself.

 

[Guvna]

I'm on right now, a very STRONG androgen called trenbolone acetate... "Fina" by many. My BP, which I just took, was 118/76, digital readout. 120/80 is normal, mine has never been above normal no matter what I use. And my cholesterol never goes above normal. My bodyfat is less than the average male, my immune system is better, my quality of life overall is much better. Side effects can be avoided not just by avoiding steroids altogether, but by being smart about their usage. My father is an MD, I used to get tests all the time from him, never once was he very concerned about any of my values. Dr.'s opinion? I'm in much better shape than average, and better health as well. Perhaps I will suffer some side effect down the road that I can't forsee, but according to everything medical science and my body are telling me, I'm helping myself, not hurting myself.

what kind of Bp meter are you using? I have been meaning to get one...

 

[silverbackn]

I don't see why you would get flamed, other than the fact that you are talking about something which you have no experience. We are all concerned about our health. Use and abuse aren't the same thing. Bodybuilders for the most part lead a healthy lifestyle, no smoking, limited drinking, eating quality food, intense physical activity, etc. I would say that compared to the average American we are very healthy. Go get educated.

 

[Tux]

Tatung Pro-care, wrist type blood pressure monitor. Model #TMD-36AB. My dad got it free and gave it to me as he knew I couldn't fit the standard cuffs they have in places like Rite-Aide anymore

 

[Bruce]

bro mine is perfect and goes to 120 over 80 at its worst. deca deca deca and winny. oh yea and my surgery on my gallbladder, thanks to the deca recovered in like 4 weeks as opposed to 8. so your saying that a kid who doens't grow correctly and is given anavar at the age of 14 is gonna die an untimely death. or how about this one for you, arnold age 59, looks 30, sly stallone also 60 looks 30. when arnold is 85 and looks like a bber still, ask your friend whaa happened

 

[view]

show me a double blind study comparing the life expectancy of steroid users vs. the regular population.

I ask this because no such study exists. AAS might affect health in some (namely abusers), but in the vast majority, there are no real side effects. In fact there are many great positive side effects. imagine feeling so confident you could sit down and tackle any huge task ahead of you. that's what it feels like to be on Test. Pretty fucking cool eh.

 

[azul]

Tatung Pro-care, wrist type blood pressure monitor. Model #TMD-36AB. My dad got it free and gave it to me as he knew I couldn't fit the standard cuffs they have in places like Rite-Aide anymore

Lol yah, those things hurt like hell. On tren, my bloodpressure is just about normal, but off tren, it's even better.

My heart rate goes as high as 68-72 beats a minute on tren, when it's 56 normally. Even on tren, it's still about average compared to most people.

 

[Stainless_Steel]

what if your heart beats 100-110 bpm? When I am on ECA stack or clen it gets this bad sometimes. Thats about 2-3 hours after working out though. I need to go check it now and see what it is resting. So whats the high limit? of heart beats per mins that is.

 

[silverbackn]

what if your heart beats 100-110 bpm? When I am on ECA stack or clen it gets this bad sometimes. Thats about 2-3 hours after working out though. I need to go check it now and see what it is resting. So whats the high limit? of heart beats per mins that is.

That is definitely an unhealthily high heart rate. Do you have tachycardia?

 

[azul]

what if your heart beats 100-110 bpm? When I am on ECA stack or clen it gets this bad sometimes. Thats about 2-3 hours after working out though. I need to go check it now and see what it is resting. So whats the high limit? of heart beats per mins that is.

Mine can stay elevated for a couple hours after working out, but it shouldn't stay that high for so long.

I'm on 100mg of ephedrine/800mg caffeine a day... it's been 5-6 hours since my last dose and my heartbeat is perfectly normal. Still feeling hot though.

If you're in ok shape, your resting heart rate shouldn't be above 80.

 

[spikemydog]

if you like corvettes go to a corvette fourm or mustang or what ever your intrests are.dont go to one that you dont like. no???? my blood pressure gets high but also gets real high when eating a big steak with alot of salt

 

[nomad12]

Id like to chime in on this post. I came here to learn about gear after being offered some and was almost ready to jump in. This board did nothing but steer me (and many others for that matter) from using. I have enjoyed the diet doard and have lost close to 15 pound by eating 5-6 small healthy meals a day. I use to get mad when I would see every post regarding newbies starting off as this " If have you havent been working out for 5-7 years, down to at least 10-12% body fat, at least 23 years old no longer expierencing then FORGET about gear. Why would a gear board be so anit-gear? Ill tell you why. The regular posters on this board believe in responsible use not abuse. Sure some people have already made up there mind and will do gear regardless but they didnt encouraged by this board to make poor decisions. I may use some day but not after getting in good shape on my own first and a lot of thought. I would like to help heal some injuries that have been keeping me from getting from getting started excersizing like I would like. We live in an instomatic world and sometines one cannot wait like we should. Im 26 so I done growing and I know now to get blood work before thinking about going ON and know about PCT which none of the knuckle heads I know who are on now have even heard of. Thats the end of my rant. As you can tell this rant was more for myself than this post but hey I been surfing this place for 2 months everday so I had to let loose. Thanks for everything EF!

 

[azul]

Id like to chime in on this post. I came here to learn about gear after being offered some and was almost ready to jump in. This board did nothing but steer me (and many others for that matter) from using. I have enjoyed the diet doard and have lost close to 15 pound by eating 5-6 small healthy meals a day. I use to get mad when I would see every post regarding newbies starting off as this " I have you havent been working out for 5-7 years, down to at least 10-12% body fat, at least 23 years old no longer expierencing then FORGET about gear. Why would a gear board be so anit-gear? Ill tell you why. The regular posters on this board believe in responsible use not abuse. Sure some people have already made up there mind and will do gear regardless but they didnt encouraged by this board to make poor decisions. I may use some day but not after getting in good shape on my own first and alot of thought. I would like to help heal some injuries that have been keeping me from getting from getting started excersizing like I would like. We live in an instomatic world and someones one cannot wait like we should. Im 26 so I done growing and I know now to get blood work before thinking about going ON and know about PCT which none of the knuckle heads I know who are on now have even heard of. Thats the end of my rant. As you can tell this rant was more for myself than this post but hey if been surfing this place for 2 months everday so I had to let loose. Thanks for everything EF!

I don't quite get it... are you glad that you were steered away from doing steroids, or are you being sarcastic?

 

[silverbackn]

I don't quite get it... are you glad that you were steered away from doing steroids, or are you being sarcastic?

I think he is being sincere. He didn't jump right into juice, and he seems to have genuinely learned about the importance of diet.

 

[Tux]

My heartrate has always been high. Every time it's been measured from a little kid on up, that I can remember, it's in the lower to mid 80's. Even when I weighed 112lbs and ran 5miles a day on the cross-country team, my resting heartrate was only about 72. I never got a low heartrate. I'm smaller in stature than most guys so I know that's part of it, but also, individual heartrates vary quite a bit. 72 is no longer considered "normal", normal is a range now. Mine, at 82-84, is normal for me. Even doing high intensity workouts, sprints, etc, my HR never goes above 160, I am in good cardio shape, I just have a naturally higher resting HR. Does gear have any effect on this? No. And does this mean I'm going to die sooner? I really don't think so. Actually smaller specimens of the same species tend to live longer, so I'll be jacked AND still outlive all you tall fuckers, THEN we'll see who's got the last laugh

 

[azul]

My heartrate has always been high. Every time it's been measured from a little kid on up, that I can remember, it's in the lower to mid 80's. Even when I weighed 112lbs and ran 5miles a day on the cross-country team, my resting heartrate was only about 72. I never got a low heartrate. I'm smaller in stature than most guys so I know that's part of it, but also, individual heartrates vary quite a bit. 72 is no longer considered "normal", normal is a range now. Mine, at 82-84, is normal for me. Even doing high intensity workouts, sprints, etc, my HR never goes above 160, I am in good cardio shape, I just have a naturally higher resting HR. Does gear have any effect on this? No. And does this mean I'm going to die sooner? I really don't think so. Actually smaller specimens of the same species tend to live longer, so I'll be jacked AND still outlive all you tall fuckers, THEN we'll see who's got the last laugh

HR doesn't go above 160 even when doing sprints? After heavy deadlifts, mine goes around 220. Maybe I just have a very big heart

 

[Tux]

Well I'm short, and I'm white, so you KNOW I'm slow as hell lol. I used to be good at long-distance, but my sprint was about 1mph faster than my normal running speed. After a set of 10-12 heavy squats, ass to ankles, I'll see spots and be dizzy for 10-15 seconds sometimes, but my heartrate is usually no higher than 150-160. Either that, or I'm so out of it that I can't count accurately by that point. That could be it too

 

[azul]

Well I'm short, and I'm white, so you KNOW I'm slow as hell lol. I used to be good at long-distance, but my sprint was about 1mph faster than my normal running speed. After a set of 10-12 heavy squats, ass to ankles, I'll see spots and be dizzy for 10-15 seconds sometimes, but my heartrate is usually no higher than 150-160. Either that, or I'm so out of it that I can't count accurately by that point. That could be it too

LMAO... sprint 1mph faster than normal running speed.

 

[Tux]

It's sad but true. People would always be breaking into a sprint at the end of a race, and wondering why I wasn't. I'd tell them, "I DID break into a sprint... that WAS my sprint lol". I had a slow-ass sprint speed, but pretty fast running pace. Did 5k's in just over 18 minutes. Be lucky if I could do ONE 7 minute mile without dying now though hehe.

 

[nomad12]

I don't quite get it... are you glad that you were steered away from doing steroids, or are you being sarcastic?


I was being sincere just not completly coherent