HGH while Bulking?

[ConanX]

Who here has experience with using HGH while trying to put on substantial muscle mass in the off-season?

I have a cycle coming up very soon consisting of 750-900mg Test, 600mg Eq, dbol, and maybe some other AAS at the end. I was wondering if HGH will help me put on some extra muscle mass and possibly even help keep me lean while eating an abundance of calories.

Is HGH worth it during a "bulking" phase? I was thinking of running it from December until around April. OR is HGH realistically better suited during a cutting phase?

Thank you very much.

 

[Fudge Tunnel]

Yes you can use it during a bulk or a cut, the days,times and IUS that you use for each are very different, so use it the correct way for your goal

I would save the EQ for a cutter and use deca or NPP, it's better suited for your goal.

You need to use it for a minimum of 20 weeks to really see significant results

 

[HAYEZ]

yes def use it

i would suggest dropping t5he eq for deca tho

900 test
600 deca
dbol 40
hgh 5iu ed

 

[ConanX]

yes def use it

i would suggest dropping t5he eq for deca tho

900 test
600 deca
dbol 40
hgh 5iu ed

Thanks man. I'm using the EQ because I may want to run some Tren Ace later on in the cycle and I know some people are fine with Deca and Tren, but I don't want to risk it right now and I don't have the proper ancil. drugs to combat the sides.

Thank you. I will definitely comtemplate using the HGH if I can come up with the financing lol.

 

[Dial_tone]

If bulking is what you want and you have to make a choice I'd do IGF-1 instead. If you can do both.

 

[ConanX]

If bulking is what you want and you have to make a choice I'd do IGF-1 instead. If you can do both.

I am really not familiar at all with IGF-1 and other peptides. I will research it. I definitely don't want to do Insulin for a long time, if ever. I don't need it right now and the sides are very scary.

 

[ArmaniAK47]

Yeah boy, get it!

You've got to beat, beat, beat the drum!

 

[HAYEZ]

you will get better reults off deca then you will with eq and tren

or you could be ignorant like me and do them all!!!!!!

lol heres mine

test cyp 400
deca 600
eq 600
tren 525

 

[ConanX]

you will get better reults off deca then you will with eq and tren

or you could be ignorant like me and do them all!!!!!!

lol heres mine

test cyp 400
deca 600
eq 600
tren 525

Damn brother! What was that about retiring the Tren? haha

 

[goin on 4T]

For bulking use 10IU's intra muscular 3 x week immediately post work than wait atleast 30 min before carbs and protien. This will give you amazing results!

 

[jacshelb]

For bulking use 10IU's intra muscular 3 x week immediately post work than wait atleast 30 min before carbs and protien. This will give you amazing results!

I've seen you say this before, and I believe you. But, I'd love to hear more detail about your results. It sounds like a good way to use for muscle gains. But, I want to know just what you experienced. Thanks!

 

[rambleon]

For bulking use 10IU's intra muscular 3 x week immediately post work than wait atleast 30 min before carbs and protien. This will give you amazing results!

I've seen u say this before. I do not entirely understand the logic of it. HGH causes growth primarily by elevating the Igf production in the liver right? That igf is systemic then. Why would site injections of the hgh make any difference then? Wouldn't a combination of sub-q hgh intake and site inhjections of Igf1 be much more effective?

 

[jacshelb]

bump!

 

[goin on 4T]

I've seen u say this before. I do not entirely understand the logic of it. HGH causes growth primarily by elevating the Igf production in the liver right? That igf is systemic then. Why would site injections of the hgh make any difference then? Wouldn't a combination of sub-q hgh intake and site inhjections of Igf1 be much more effective?

Well I appreciate the open attitude to something new!
Please remember my memory and time frame sucks.
Results are really hard to tell as I am always screwing with my mixes...
Lets see I started running GH and Test 400mg/wk in June I think and I was going to run between 400-600mg/week of cyp.
About Aug I started running the GH @ 10IU's 3 x week IM. I threw in some tren in and bumped up the Cyp.
I have also been following the Omega pamphlete for months now. The results are pretty damn amazing so far. I wish I would have journaled my stats at the time. Lets just say I was 220+ at about 14% BF and 6'1" tall. I was wearing large size t-shirts. Now I have to wear X-Lg and sometimes they are too tight in the chest and arms.
I will post some pics after I am done with my move. I am down to 216 @ 10.4% BF. The weirdest thing is that I was injecting the GH in my calve muscles and they were starting to look crazy veinie. So I shaved them 2 weeks ago, holly cow it is crazy. So now I am injecting the GH into my quads hoping for great seperation and veinage there too.
As far as why I guess its because you are slamming a large amount of GH into your body at a non-standard schedule and the body isn't preparred for it like with ED in the morning shots.
It will also give you less bloat and a lot less other sides too and even though I don't believe taking GH will shut down your Hypothalmus, the 3 x week should not effect your natural production of GH.
Just try it for 6 weeks and you will be impressed!

 

[Fatboy1984]

im gonna try this in my next bulking cycle. I cant wait. Im also gonna do some IGF with it, hoping i can grow some bigger calves and tri's

 

[ConanX]

Ok guys, well I think I will throw some low-dose HGH into my bulker. I can't afford too much of it so I will start with something like 2iu's every day. Hopefully that helps a bit with fat loss and lean muscle gains during my cycle. Also I am hoping it will help me keep my gains through PCT. I can always bump up the dose if I find a cheaper source or if they give me a better discount. I also plan on combining this with IGF-1 if I can get good pricing, so hopefully the IGF-1+HGH combo will be a nice addition to my 2G+AAS bulk cycle (along with a shitload of food!). I'll find out more this week on the pricing, but I'm hoping I can pull this off.

 

[Fudge Tunnel]

How do you plan on mixing your igf-1? BAC or AA? What dose is the vial?

 

[ConanX]

How do you plan on mixing your igf-1? BAC or AA? What dose is the vial?

I'm finding out more from the guy. I am brand new to peptides so I have a lot to learn but from what I have read, it seems like this is good stuff. New muscle cell growth, site growth, some fat loss, strength increase, synergy with HGH + AAS, and help with keeping gains during PCT.

Probably BAC water since that is what will be used with the HCG...I need to keep researching though.

 

[ALIN]

Who here has experience with using HGH while trying to put on substantial muscle mass in the off-season?

I have a cycle coming up very soon consisting of 750-900mg Test, 600mg Eq, dbol, and maybe some other AAS at the end. I was wondering if HGH will help me put on some extra muscle mass and possibly even help keep me lean while eating an abundance of calories.

Is HGH worth it during a "bulking" phase? I was thinking of running it from December until around April. OR is HGH realistically better suited during a cutting phase?

Thank you very much.

Depending on dosages. For me HGH works best for cutting...for bulking i would use a larger doseage and possible add some insulin and IGFLR3.

 

[PuffDawg]

I think i can say for anyone that has used IGF-1 for bulking that its not all that its cracked up to be. Your better off using MGF if your bulking. I agree with HAYEZ in switching the eq for deca. There's just way to many options you could do but just sharing my own personal experience with actual use of these. You can't go wrong with test, deca, and dbol for bulking but if it was me i'd use MGF before IGF for bulking if your going that route.

 

[ConanX]

I think i can say for anyone that has used IGF-1 for bulking that its not all that its cracked up to be. Your better off using MGF if your bulking. I agree with HAYEZ in switching the eq for deca. There's just way to many options you could do but just sharing my own personal experience with actual use of these. You can't go wrong with test, deca, and dbol for bulking but if it was me i'd use MGF before IGF for bulking if your going that route.

I'll look into MGF, thank you.

 

[goin on 4T]

I think the problem is that so many companies spin there IGF as receptor grade, when infact its not at all near the quality of receptor grade. Mine was outstanding as I got it from a university in the US. Unfortunately my contact is gone!

I think i can say for anyone that has used IGF-1 for bulking that its not all that its cracked up to be. Your better off using MGF if your bulking. I agree with HAYEZ in switching the eq for deca. There's just way to many options you could do but just sharing my own personal experience with actual use of these. You can't go wrong with test, deca, and dbol for bulking but if it was me i'd use MGF before IGF for bulking if your going that route.

 

[PuffDawg]

I think the problem is that so many companies spin there IGF as receptor grade, when infact its not at all near the quality of receptor grade. Mine was outstanding as I got it from a university in the US. Unfortunately my contact is gone!

I wondered about that too. The quality/purity of it and also the dosage people take. I took 100mcg's ed (divided in 2 shots) then reduced it to just the days that i lift and didn't seem like it did much for bulking but seemed to cut me up descent. A few other guys I know said the same thing but I think their dosages were smaller. They just weren't too impressed but i think they expected a miracle drug

 

[goin on 4T]

I grew about an inch in my arms from 40 days of running it. They were good size when I started now they are tight in XL shirts. LOL
To me I thought it was amazing. I don't want to run the next bottle because I don't want to grow too fast.

 

[rambleon]

I've had good results with it. Not so much in terms of overall gains but as a method of site enhancement that actually works. Nothing else can do this in my experience. So the hyperplasmia is what this drug should be used for. Nothing else.

 

[PuffDawg]

I grew about an inch in my arms from 40 days of running it. They were good size when I started now they are tight in XL shirts. LOL
To me I thought it was amazing. I don't want to run the next bottle because I don't want to grow too fast.

Wow... Now thats impressive! What dose were you running and how often? IM after workout I'm guessing? And was that ed or only workout days...

 

[goin on 4T]

I was using 30-45mcg's per side IM post work out. The stuff was amazing. Jintropin makes some but at the price they want it seems crazy.