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HGH vs. IGF LR3

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What do you guys prefer to run in a cycle. I am starting my cutter soon and would like to add one of these into my cycle. I am leaning towards IGF because I have gotten good results off of it. Thinking of first 5 weeks w/ IGF 5 weeks off, then 5 weeks on so that 3 of those weeks will be during my PCT. It would be 100 mcg/ed split into 2 doses IM. Or should i consider running 3 months straight of HGH at 4 iu's/ed Sat,Sun off. Any help appreciated.
 
Haha. My boy Mr. X. 6 years seriously bro. Tried IGF 8 months ago and loved it. I don't think I need the HGH but would love to introduce the IGF again. Your take Mr. X?
 
i am what i am said:
You prefer GH. Any reasons why? Just curious.

I found it to be a good long-term product to use for advanced bodybuilders. IGF-1 is shot-term only.
 
Yea. I hear. HGH is good for those on HRT programs, or those who are experienced bodybuilders trying to take their look to the next level. I found 3 months to be good to notice some effects it has, but I wouldn't recommend running it less than 6. Plus, you will have to run more AAS with growth to. I don't know. IGF just seems cool with me because its 4-5 weeks here, 1-2 lb's gained each week, and you can target which muscles you want to grow. Plus, you don't need gear to see gains. Thanks for the help Mr. X. I'll try to figure out where I wanna go with this then I'll make a decision.
 
Mr.X said:
Most bodybuilders would do well with one or the other, combining the 2 is overkill.
Did you see me on my avatar? Done with low carb diet. no GH and no IGF there. some crazy amount of oxandrolone, tbol and winny, yes.
So most bodybuilders would do well without GH or IGF. But if money is not an issue and your goal is to get leaner then why not stack the two?
if its overkill then its overkill for the wallet only :)
 
Retabolil2 said:
Did you see me on my avatar? Done with low carb diet. no GH and no IGF there. some crazy amount of oxandrolone, tbol and winny, yes.
So most bodybuilders would do well without GH or IGF. But if money is not an issue and your goal is to get leaner then why not stack the two?
if its overkill then its overkill for the wallet only :)

It's overkill for the body as well as the wallet, there is no need to stack the 2. 90% of bodybuilders shouldn't even come within 80 feet of GH, much less IGF-1.

If your goal is to get lean, get on a diet. Want an aid? add some test and primo.
 
I tried IGF-1 L3 from fusionlabs one time only. So, without having a lot of experience and without having done it again and again to confirm my first impression, it is pretty freaky stuff. If I knew it was real, and high quality, I'd try IGF-1 L3 again. Also, I think hGH is also a phenomenal product. Serostim was the shit! But Jintropin was good too. But I agree that to get lean you do not need hGH or IGF-1 L3. I think their value is in bulking while keeping fat gain to a minimum or even losing fat at the same time while bulking.
 
Retabolil2 said:
I`M CURRENTLY RUNNING IT :)

Im stacking the two right now also, and its the BEST i have ever looked, shit is amazing, although i find it VERY difficult to sleep due to my hands hurting so damn bad...its extremely painful when you mix the IGF and HGH, but the results are amazing
 
BBkingpin said:
I tried IGF-1 L3 from fusionlabs one time only. So, without having a lot of experience and without having done it again and again to confirm my first impression, it is pretty freaky stuff. If I knew it was real, and high quality, I'd try IGF-1 L3 again. Also, I think hGH is also a phenomenal product. Serostim was the shit! But Jintropin was good too. But I agree that to get lean you do not need hGH or IGF-1 L3. I think their value is in bulking while keeping fat gain to a minimum or even losing fat at the same time while bulking.

How about Weizman jailtech GH? good? ;)
 
Looking ripped in that avatar Ret! How low on the carbs do you go? Do you carb cycle?

Im currently running 6IU gh Ed... Would you suggest stay at that dose and add some igf in or lower the gh dose and add igf?
 
Baywatch69 said:
Looking ripped in that avatar Ret! How low on the carbs do you go? Do you carb cycle?

Im currently running 6IU gh Ed... Would you suggest stay at that dose and add some igf in or lower the gh dose and add igf?
Avatar picture is one year old :) I hate low carb diet since that experience :) LOL
But after that I realized that diet is the key to everything, steroids doesnt mena much. I was taking not more than 150g of carbs a day.
 
a bomb said:
Will you dive into this a little more for us? Thanks!

What's there to dive into? Growth hormone and IGF-1 is for advanced bodybuilders. 90% of AS users aren't even close to being advanced; in fact, 50% of them shouldn't even be using AS.
 
Mr.X said:
What's there to dive into? Growth hormone and IGF-1 is for advanced bodybuilders. 90% of AS users aren't even close to being advanced; in fact, 50% of them shouldn't even be using AS.

I can agree with your IGF belief because if I'm not mistaken there are absolutely no human studies to prove that wheter or not IGF is harmful or helpful.

However, isn't Growth Hormone is being prescribed on a large scale by doctors across the country? It seems if you are middle aged and have deep enough pockets then doctors don't seem to have any issues with it. I know that no doctor in his right mind would suggest doing 20 i.u. a day, or 10 i.u for that matter. But if I'm wanting to take 1- 2 i.u for 6 months is it really that outrageous or radical or dangerous?
 
a bomb said:
I can agree with your IGF belief because if I'm not mistaken there are absolutely no human studies to prove that wheter or not IGF is harmful or helpful.

However, isn't Growth Hormone is being prescribed on a large scale by doctors across the country? It seems if you are middle aged and have deep enough pockets then doctors don't seem to have any issues with it. I know that no doctor in his right mind would suggest doing 20 i.u. a day, or 10 i.u for that matter. But if I'm wanting to take 1- 2 i.u for 6 months is it really that outrageous or radical or dangerous?

how many years training? and your stats?
 
Retabolil2 said:
in fact those 50% and DBBT in particular doesnt use steroids, they cant even spell "steriod" correctly :)

don't start drama again bro, I don't want to hear this childish bullshit!
 
Mr.X said:
don't start drama again bro, I don't want to hear this childish bullshit!
Drama? Whats this? When I need drama I go to theatre! ;) BTW I remember back in 80s Mr.X drama was very popular here :)
Anyways, dont take it so seriously, I`m just kidding :verygood:
 
Retabolil2 said:
Drama? Whats this? When I need drama I go to theatre! ;) BTW I remember back in 80s Mr.X drama was very popular here :)
Anyways, dont take it so seriously, I`m just kidding :verygood:

I'm not kidding, stop the drama. Period.... :rolleyes:
 
Well, if you run the IGF with the GH, you still only need to run the IGF for 4-5 weeks? Would seem like HGH and IGF is all you need to get LBM, cut body fat, build strentgh, and overall improve your health. Fountain of youth cycle.
 
Mr.X said:
It's overkill for the body as well as the wallet, there is no need to stack the 2. 90% of bodybuilders shouldn't even come within 80 feet of GH, much less IGF-1.

If your goal is to get lean, get on a diet. Want an aid? add some test and primo.
While I do agree with some of what you've said in the entire thread like 50% of guys using aas shouldn't be at all.

But igf can extend your gh.

I've been able to use less GH than I notmal use will substuting with IGF.

I really would like to see more people use both (advance users only) so that we could get better info on exactly which way is better.
Currently
GH in the morning and IGF before workout along with some extras
 
The prices of HGH and IGF will fall even further in the future. In no way will I discuss prices, but trust you me, the generics are very reasonable. Eventually the BB community will all be on HGH and IGF. But for now, I am still growing off of AAS and will continue to use them. I'll be throwing that stuff in here and there.
 
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