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HGH or What???
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Taking GH before bed is not the best idea due to the fact that your body secretes most of it's own GH during the nighttime sleeping phase. If one uses exogeneous HGH before bed, the body's natural negative feedback system will probably blunt if not shut down natural gh levels. The best time to take it would be upon waking, since this is when the body's nat. gh levels are lowering and cortisol levels are highest.
Rusty- I believe that you can use just 2 iu/day and obtain significant fatloss, but it will take time. Most likely a few months.
I spoke to one of the most knowledgable guys I know on the subject about it and am passing along the info.
Rusty- I believe that you can use just 2 iu/day and obtain significant fatloss, but it will take time. Most likely a few months.
I spoke to one of the most knowledgable guys I know on the subject about it and am passing along the info.
solidspine
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If your under 35, I think you are better of with other gear, especially money wise.
Rusty is getting grumpy, so lets just go with some facts. In studies of young adult male weight trainers, increases were found in muscle volume (~6-8%) and lean body mass (~11%). Exercise capacity was elevated in such patients (~12%), but strength was either not changed or mildly increased by about 8% (Jorgensen 1989, Salomon 1989).
I don't know about you, but an 11% improvement in lean body mass impresses me. Sounds to me like this is the stat that interests you the most. These studies were with GH used alone.....no gear. For lean muscle growth in addition to the above benefits, add in some steroids. Prop, eq, tren and winstrol is an awesome cutting stack with GH.
Personally, I use heavy test and insulin with my GH, and finish up with tren, eq, winstrol for maximum size and leanness.
I won't judge you on your age, but I can tell you, hGH is extremely effective for old farts like me.
At your age, you will be at the peak of your own natural production, and would not need big doses of exogenous GH. Even just 2iu a day would more than double your own natural production.
I don't know about you, but an 11% improvement in lean body mass impresses me. Sounds to me like this is the stat that interests you the most. These studies were with GH used alone.....no gear. For lean muscle growth in addition to the above benefits, add in some steroids. Prop, eq, tren and winstrol is an awesome cutting stack with GH.
Personally, I use heavy test and insulin with my GH, and finish up with tren, eq, winstrol for maximum size and leanness.
I won't judge you on your age, but I can tell you, hGH is extremely effective for old farts like me.
At your age, you will be at the peak of your own natural production, and would not need big doses of exogenous GH. Even just 2iu a day would more than double your own natural production.
RustyTromboneMan
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Thank you Ironmaster, finally an answer with some facts behind it. So I think what you are saying that HGH will work well for me but it works even better for older people because there natural gh levels are lower
Now I just have to decide if I feel it is worth it. Last question, Are the chances of sides increased because of my age
Now I just have to decide if I feel it is worth it. Last question, Are the chances of sides increased because of my age
No. Because you are at the very peak of your natural production, you won't need to supplement as much. (normal range of natural production is .5 to 1.5iu a day. You will be at 1.5iu due to your age, so even 2iu of exogenous GH is a big increase. Most of our natural production occurs in the first 2 hours of REM sleep, so avoid injecting at bedtime)
The side effects noted in the various studies were not age specific.........less than 10% reported one of the following: swelling of the hands and feet, wrist pain, overall joint pain, allergic reactions, or water retention. Interestingly, the placebo group in one study reported similar side effects....on sterile water injections.
Obviously, if you have an allergic reaction or develop carpel tunnel you will want to discontinue the somatropin. Most who have problems are simply reacting to the synthetic nature of the hormone........hell, some folks are allergic to steroids.
It is difficult to get into trouble with GH because our body has natural defenses that negate the effect of massive doses. Those who lack these defenses have the disease acromeglia....giantism.
To be thorough, I will add this......some manufacturers warn that hGH will cause more rapid growth of existing tumors....which makes sense. One should pay attention to changes in moles or skin lesions while using GH.
Also, GH can cause low blood sugar in some.......I have never heard of anyone becoming diabetic. Just take in some simple and complex carbs with your injections.....like we do with insulin.
The percentages are quite small of those who have serious side effects, but they do exist. Personally, after a decade of GH use, I feel that steroids are more dangerous.
Good luck, whatever you decide. Asking questions is the reasonable thing to do.
The side effects noted in the various studies were not age specific.........less than 10% reported one of the following: swelling of the hands and feet, wrist pain, overall joint pain, allergic reactions, or water retention. Interestingly, the placebo group in one study reported similar side effects....on sterile water injections.
Obviously, if you have an allergic reaction or develop carpel tunnel you will want to discontinue the somatropin. Most who have problems are simply reacting to the synthetic nature of the hormone........hell, some folks are allergic to steroids.
It is difficult to get into trouble with GH because our body has natural defenses that negate the effect of massive doses. Those who lack these defenses have the disease acromeglia....giantism.
To be thorough, I will add this......some manufacturers warn that hGH will cause more rapid growth of existing tumors....which makes sense. One should pay attention to changes in moles or skin lesions while using GH.
Also, GH can cause low blood sugar in some.......I have never heard of anyone becoming diabetic. Just take in some simple and complex carbs with your injections.....like we do with insulin.
The percentages are quite small of those who have serious side effects, but they do exist. Personally, after a decade of GH use, I feel that steroids are more dangerous.
Good luck, whatever you decide. Asking questions is the reasonable thing to do.
RustyTromboneMan
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thanks a lot Ironmaster, I appreciate all the help
myasshurts
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If I were you I would not use it simply because there is the risk of bone/organ growth. Although the risk is small in low dosage it is still there, and you can easily reach your goals through diet/excercise. Someone else suggested cardio and you don't even consider it. I think if you would rather do GH than cardio you are one lazy piece of shit.
