HGH / Insulin

[the_alcatraz]

As many of you know, I've gotten off the juice some time back and never got back on. Lost quite a bit of strength and size but after months of hard work, eating and hibernating, I was able to get back 100% of my size and 90% of my strength, which is good enough for me...I'm sure I will keep getting strength and size gains naturally. As I grow older, I'm almost 30, it's harder to keep the fat low naturally. I was at 6% bf when I was younger and now I'm probably at about 11%....not a big deal but I was wondering about the following:

1- anyone ever cycle HGH alone? what results can you expect in doing so, without taking any aas?

2- anyone ever try using insulin alone to bulk with a proper diet? no aas use and no hgh...

 

[stevesmi]

insulin didn't do anything for me to be honest.

i do think i am insulin sensitive though so that probably played a part, plus I'm already a big guy who has no issues bulking. i ran 5-10iu's both pre workout and post workout. the stress of getting into the dex after taking it and timing meals made it not worth it at all for me.

as for HGH never tried but at your age I would stick with AAS due to price.. if you want to compete as a heavyweight then you need both IMO, but if you aren't then I don't think either is necessary for your goals at all

having said all that give insulin a shot if anything just as an experiment to see how you react.. start out at 4 or 5iu's post workout.. get in your dex immediately and then a solid meal 30 minutes later. inject right after your workout.. i would keep my needles and dex in a cooler in my car and inject in my car.. make sure its fast acting insulin, don't mess with the long active version, too risky

 

[the_alcatraz]

I did HGH for 4 months after two concurrent injuries - tendonitis in my left wrist and torn chest....my range of motion was better on my chest and my tendonitis greatly decreased. The pumps were insane and I became stronger on the table - wrist, hand, finger strength and dexterity went up ....all in 4 months

As for aas, I think I will stay natural because I'm able to maintain strength and size naturally

Only reason I thought of slin is because I'm 218 lbs on a good day...I need to hit 242 lbs for the higher weight class in arm wrestling...

 

[stevesmi]

give slin a shot.. eat like a horse during the window after you inject. but make sure you eat clean, if you eat a lot of crap you will definately put on a ton of fat

 

[meathead96]

Just came off an 8 month run of GH at 3-4iu ED. Def some fat loss and more of a "3D look". I really like it. Nothing huge from it but def a change in body composition. Slin I have used alone but gained a lot of fat. Too many carbs probably. With GH I looked a lot fuller and didn't gain much fat.

 

[stevesmi]

Just came off an 8 month run of GH at 3-4iu ED. Def some fat loss and more of a "3D look". I really like it. Nothing huge from it but def a change in body composition. Slin I have used alone but gained a lot of fat. Too many carbs probably. With GH I looked a lot fuller and didn't gain much fat.

so you ran GH alone for 8 months? how long did it take to really make a difference for you?

if not i am curious if you stacked something with it how the results would have been.

 

[Reps For Jesus]

I've used slin by itself to bulk. It will put size on you no doubt. I blew up real quick. There was a good amount of fat and muscle.

 

[dylangemelli]

you really have to watch your potassium/sodium ratio on gh or you will retain crazy water... you can definitely make some nice gains with it but the cost/reward ratio just is not there for me... i can't use it anyway because of the water with the ratio im allergic to a lot of potassium but regardless, there are gains to be made but its not my preferred option...

 

[hgh<3]

Just take a potassium vitamin a day, really works for the carpal in the hands.

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[C0LUMB0]

as obvious as it sounds the big thing with GH is making sure you are getting 100% legit product, its too expensive and too much of a pain in the ass to do ED injects unless you are absolutely gtg.

i got stung badly with kigtropin , looked perfect after i checked everything out.....ran it for a few weeks and pulled bloods,

bunk as fuck. !

waste of alot of money and pinning.

i dont think it is worth it unless you have a very solid source and a fat bunch of $$$ to drop.