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It's been awhile...Greetings everyone.
Had a few questions for vets with hgh and cyp experience.
History:
I'm 33yrs old (male)
5'10"
185lbs
probably 15-17%bf (i know)
Diagnosed w/osteopinia
3 cycles since 1997, 2003 was my last cycle.
My background training has been mostly natural throughout my life. Involved in Judo/wrestling as a teen. Got introduced to AS from my HS wrestling buddies turned fighters. Pretty muched stayed away from it all until I saw an aquaintace at the beach. I was like man you are frigen ripped! Then he smirks.. and then I learned the dark side.. ; ) So I messed around with it, trying to educate myself as much as possible, but I guess not enough as you shall see in my early history.
1st joke of a cycle, the usual uninformed dumass, winny thing at age 26, didn't notice much as I was in decent shape.
2nd cycle still a joke 6 week deca/winny age 27 and no pct (i know..)
3rd cycle at age 28 (hard to remember)
165lbs
15%bf
trained 5-6times a week
wk 1-4 Sust 250 EW, 500mg week 4-8
wk 1-8 Deca 400mg
wk 8-12 Winny 200mg eod
wk 8-12 primo ( forgot dosage)
attempted pct consisted of only (clomid and proviron)
I went from 165lbs to 190lbs, and was stronger than ever.
However, I can't remember exactly how my pct schedule went but It didn't
work. I knew mentally I wasn't going to feel the same but I continued to hammerit out at the gym. After my cycle I kept a lot of my gains but I felt so shitty for almost a year, with slightly mild depression. Sex drive was still there but not the punishment levels i was used to giving. Went to my endocrin doc and not surprisingly he said my test scores were like a 60yr old dude. Damn, confirmed that I was shut down hard. Did a bone D test and found out I had borderline osteoperosis. Lame..
Anyhow, my doc suggested hrt but I declined. Read up on osteoperosis and learned deca can help with bone loss. Did a short cycle of deca only and went back to my endocrine doc with my new bone density results. He was really confused? I was taking fosamax and excercising relgiously w/shhh deca. He said in his 30+years experience he has never seen such an improvment in bone growth. He was sure the test results was lab error.
I was too much of a puss to tell him I was on the sauce. It was my own personal experiment that worked.
Finally, last week i did my first blood work in almost three years. I think my age (33ys) is starting to show in my stamina, physically and mentally.
Before when I declined hrt, I am now hoping to get on it. I asked about gh and my doc gave me the (i don't know let see) look. Regardless, 1 more week before my results, I am going to get back on. With or without the docs ok. I just want to feel back to normal as in my 20's snap.
So, for my totally long post question:
1. Which is better and why (pro's & con's), hgh or Test Cyp?
2. What will happen if I use both together?
3. Does cyp alone feel the same as hgh? (mentally/physically)
4. Does hgh raise testosterone levels?
5. Any suggestions and comments truly appreciated
My goals are to no some much to get HUGE, well maybe a little. But really to get leaned out and fit like the Judo/wrestling "machine" body I once knew. I know you can't fight mother nature but I won't give in without a true fight.
Thanks all for your patience in this long post. Again any suggestions
and advice for the FNG.
It's been awhile...Greetings everyone.
Had a few questions for vets with hgh and cyp experience.
History:
I'm 33yrs old (male)
5'10"
185lbs
probably 15-17%bf (i know)
Diagnosed w/osteopinia
3 cycles since 1997, 2003 was my last cycle.
My background training has been mostly natural throughout my life. Involved in Judo/wrestling as a teen. Got introduced to AS from my HS wrestling buddies turned fighters. Pretty muched stayed away from it all until I saw an aquaintace at the beach. I was like man you are frigen ripped! Then he smirks.. and then I learned the dark side.. ; ) So I messed around with it, trying to educate myself as much as possible, but I guess not enough as you shall see in my early history.
1st joke of a cycle, the usual uninformed dumass, winny thing at age 26, didn't notice much as I was in decent shape.
2nd cycle still a joke 6 week deca/winny age 27 and no pct (i know..)
3rd cycle at age 28 (hard to remember)
165lbs
15%bf
trained 5-6times a week
wk 1-4 Sust 250 EW, 500mg week 4-8
wk 1-8 Deca 400mg
wk 8-12 Winny 200mg eod
wk 8-12 primo ( forgot dosage)
attempted pct consisted of only (clomid and proviron)
I went from 165lbs to 190lbs, and was stronger than ever.
However, I can't remember exactly how my pct schedule went but It didn't
work. I knew mentally I wasn't going to feel the same but I continued to hammerit out at the gym. After my cycle I kept a lot of my gains but I felt so shitty for almost a year, with slightly mild depression. Sex drive was still there but not the punishment levels i was used to giving. Went to my endocrin doc and not surprisingly he said my test scores were like a 60yr old dude. Damn, confirmed that I was shut down hard. Did a bone D test and found out I had borderline osteoperosis. Lame..
Anyhow, my doc suggested hrt but I declined. Read up on osteoperosis and learned deca can help with bone loss. Did a short cycle of deca only and went back to my endocrine doc with my new bone density results. He was really confused? I was taking fosamax and excercising relgiously w/shhh deca. He said in his 30+years experience he has never seen such an improvment in bone growth. He was sure the test results was lab error.
I was too much of a puss to tell him I was on the sauce. It was my own personal experiment that worked.
Finally, last week i did my first blood work in almost three years. I think my age (33ys) is starting to show in my stamina, physically and mentally.
Before when I declined hrt, I am now hoping to get on it. I asked about gh and my doc gave me the (i don't know let see) look. Regardless, 1 more week before my results, I am going to get back on. With or without the docs ok. I just want to feel back to normal as in my 20's snap.
So, for my totally long post question:
1. Which is better and why (pro's & con's), hgh or Test Cyp?
2. What will happen if I use both together?
3. Does cyp alone feel the same as hgh? (mentally/physically)
4. Does hgh raise testosterone levels?
5. Any suggestions and comments truly appreciated
My goals are to no some much to get HUGE, well maybe a little. But really to get leaned out and fit like the Judo/wrestling "machine" body I once knew. I know you can't fight mother nature but I won't give in without a true fight.
Thanks all for your patience in this long post. Again any suggestions
and advice for the FNG.
