Here we GO!!!! Take a look at my cycle...OPINIONS PLEASE

[MordecaiPSI]

Well i have been waiting a little under a year compiling everything needed to do a good first cycle and making sure all my gear is legit.

My cycle will consist of:

-500mg or Sust-250mgx2 per week-10wks, Monday mornings and thursday nights to get it as even as possible.

-300mg of Decca 150mg per week mixed with Sust-10wks.

Clomid 3 wks after last Sust shot-300mg on day 1; then 100mg for the next 10 days; followed by 50mg for 10 days.

Stats are i am 5'7, 170lbs with about 13%bf-20yo. This will be my first and i hope to maximize my gains.

My main concerns are if my pct is in order and also, should i keep my decca at 300mg per week or bump it up?...down? Thanks bros.

 

[Mavy]

Looks like a solid first cycle, and i think that you will gain VERY well from it. A few things. I would grab some dbol for a kickstart, and you could also use it as an end, to use while you are waiting for the long esters to kick in and leave. It dosent have to be much. I would run dbol @ 25mg/day for the first 3wks. Then I would run it at 15mg/day for the last 3 wks after the last shot of sust and deca up until PCT. You can run any fast acting gear in those time frames, dbol just works best, and makes for a very nice mass stack with the other 2.

Now for the deca. 300mg/wk for 10 wks, is the type of scenario when some people run into problems with it. It is very rare, but remember that it does have a compounding effect, so around the week 4 mark, you are going to probably have over 500mg in your system. The people who do experience deca problems are the ones who run it for a long period of time, and at higher dosages, and without the use of HCG. That is why I would run HCG throughout this cycle. Nothing fancy, but maybe 500iu every 5 days. I think that you would have no troubles.

Another option, and the one that I would go with would be to run NPP (fast acting deca), for the first 6 wks. You can run this at 200mg e3d, or more, and be done with it in 6 wks. Either way you will be glad that there is a nandrolone in the mix, if its mass you are after.

I would definately run HCG throughout the cycle. I would definately run an Aromatase Inhibitor throughout the cycle. I would have some Nolvadex AND some bromo, or dostinex on hand incase there is some gyno that occurs from the Test, OR Deca. You should be ok, if you run an AI, and deca induced gyno is rare, unless you are using huge dosages for a long time. PCT looks OK, if you are sold on the clomid route. HCG will make it easier to recover. You may want to run it at 500iu every 2 or 3 days for the last week before PCT to make it easier to recover. Just some precautions you might want to think about when running the cycle. Hope it all works good for you. That is a very classic cycle test/deca/dbol.

Good Luck,
Mavy

 

[supervegitto]

agrees with Mavy but adding the dbol is totally up to you, I wouldn't stack 3 compounds for your first cycle(personal preference) deca/test stack will be good, having some nolva, bromo, or V6 on hand in case of gyno symtoms. I would also up the deca to at least 400mg.
good luck

 

[Mavy]

See I would rather add the dbol, before upping the deca. You have to remember that he wont see a whole hell of a lot happening as far as gains for the first 3 wks, which why dbol is such a good choice for a frontload with these. You could even use 15mg.day, and that may be enough for a first time user. I personally would not run Deca at 400mg/wk, especially for a first cycle, in fact I would probably run it at 200mg/wk if I was going for 10wks. 300 would probably go ok, but 400, for a first cycle, and he may be looking at a harder time recovering. Gains will deinfately be more, no doubt, but so will sides.

 

[Mavy]

See I would rather add the dbol, before upping the deca. You have to remember that he wont see a whole hell of a lot happening as far as gains for the first 3 wks, which why dbol is such a good choice for a frontload with these. You could even use 15mg.day, and that may be enough for a first time user. I personally would not run Deca at 400mg/wk, especially for a first cycle, in fact I would probably run it at 200mg/wk if I was going for 10wks. 300 would probably go ok, but 400, for a first cycle, and he may be looking at a harder time recovering. Gains will deinfately be more, no doubt, but so will sides.

 

[slat1]

I totally agree with Mavy on adding HCG. This should not be overlooked! I will post a link to a page with info on PCT that I use as my bible.

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/clomid-hcg.asp

I just finished a cycle very similar to what Mavy mentioned. I did 600mgs test ew 1 - 10. 300mg's of Deca ew 1 - 10 and 30mg's dbol ed wk 1 - 4.
I used 500iu's of HCG ed for 10 days in the middle of the cycle. I then used the exact same protocal you mentioned with Clomid.
My last shot was about 7+ weeks ago and I am still holding all strength gains! I don't know if this is normal but I am pretty excited about it.
The only lbs I lost were the water on my waist!
Make sure to get the HCG before you start. It is a staple of every cycle I do and always will be...

Good Luck

 

[ravedave]

I think thats a great cycle, perhpaps run HCG or HGH throughout the cycle, seeing as your only 20, stack three at once the first time is a bit risky, I would go with D-Bol & Test for 6weeks,the deca and sust for 4 weeks running nolvadex after your last shots.

 

[supervegitto]

Mavy your right just trying to help

 

[Mavy]

Eh no worries bro, to each there own.

Cheers

 

[MordecaiPSI]

Thanks guys.

Sooo hard to not just go ahead and start the cycle now.....been lookin at it for over a year.

I got my hands on some dbols i couldnt let go and got 5000iu of hcg. How should i administer the HCG exactly? Ive seen how to do it for after a cycle...but never during the middle of it.