Here we go again!

[Bozwell]

well Its been 4 weeks since I finnished pct and I feel better now than what I did before I started my last cycle
So Ive started my next cycle
heres the plan
weeks 1-8 sust e3d
weeks 1-4 30mg dbol ed
weeks 9-12 750ius hcg eod with 20mg of nolva
weeks 13-21 70-80mg of var ed with 50mg proviron
weeks 21-23 1500ius of hcg oed with 20mg of nolva
weeks 23-26 nolva 40mg ed fo a week the 20mg untill the end
I took a shot of sust when I got home from work (last night)with 20mg of dbol and a few hours later I could feel it, I was high on test and dbol
any feedback on this cycle is appreciated

 

[spikemydog]

seems like more pct than cycle to me?

 

[bobbie]

seems like more pct than cycle to me?

Yep i Agree bit 2 much

 

[paridhm]

I would change your nolva/hcg usage a bit. Something like: Hcg weeks 4 & 5 @ 500 iu two times a week and just keep the nolva on hand and use only if you feel some nipple sensitivity. To be honest, I dont think you will feel much during the weeks you use the Anavar because it is not very suppresive of your hpta.

 

[jacked clown]

I agree with spike

 

[Bozwell]

To much hcg you say, I want recovery to to a easy as possble I asked for input(and got it ) so Ill change it accrodingly I think only 750ius eod for 3 after the var but keep it the same after the dbol and sust
seem any better?

 

[Bozwell]

Bump, any one else care to comment?

 

[temetrepo]

I would drop the nolva and lower the hcg. why not run your test till 12 weeks.....

 

[bilter]

teh proviron with the var has me stumped. I agree with above lots of pct here

 

[djsf]

Looks like an 8-week sust cycle (with dbol front) with 4-week PCT bridged onto a 9 week var+proviron cycle, followed by 5 weeks PCT. What is your sust dose? That will help determine whether you really need hcg. This is really two cycles, not following the "time off = time on" rule of thumb. You are probably feeling this is ok because the 2nd cycle is just var. Maybe that's ok, but I would prefer to wait longer and do a more substantial second cycle.

 

[Bozwell]

Looks like an 8-week sust cycle (with dbol front) with 4-week PCT bridged onto a 9 week var+proviron cycle, followed by 5 weeks PCT. What is your sust dose? That will help determine whether you really need hcg. This is really two cycles, not following the "time off = time on" rule of thumb. You are probably feeling this is ok because the 2nd cycle is just var. Maybe that's ok, but I would prefer to wait longer and do a more substantial second cycle.

first decent answer,K to you. I am running the sust 1ml e3d I might run it 10 weeks
the plan was Id put some more mass on with good streanth gain with the sust and dbol over winter,bring my balls back to life then run var with proviron for sex drive and extra hardening so Im all cut for summer and still getting stonger because of the high dose var

 

[djsf]

When you give the dose of gear, please give it in mg, not ml. I don't know if your sust is 100mg/ml or 250mg/ml, etc.

 

[Bozwell]

When you give the dose of gear, please give it in mg, not ml. I don't know if your sust is 100mg/ml or 250mg/ml, etc.

its 250mg per ml,I didnt know they made 100mg perml sust

 

[djsf]

That may be true, but there are so many sources and types of gear, it never hurts to be clear exactly what your dose is in mg. So you are doing 250mg e3d, which comes to 583mg/week. That is a moderate (not terribly high) test dose (including ester weight). After 8 weeks of that, your chance of needing HCG is probably something like 50/50, or less. What I would do is go with that, then at week 9 check your balls and see if they have shrunken appreciably. If not (likely) then you can probably proceed with the bridge and the var cycle. If they have, then you might want to do a little more comprehensive PCT adding HCG if needed and clomid if desired. You have given yourself 4 weeks for the first PCT which is enough time to do a full PCT if needed (probably only 50/50 you will need it). I would, however, take a good length of time off after the 2nd part of the cycle before doing the next one to let your body recover from all this. Also, 9 weeks of var at 70-80mg is a relatively liver-unfriendly cycle, so I would be sure to use some sort of liver detox while doing that, and have your liver values checked periodically.