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Here are the before and after pix for Dermatherm!!!!

the_clockwork said:
not even same person
yes , I look different, but that is my fat ass in the b4 pics, I spent a lot of time working outside , that's why I"m so tan, and the tat is new and the hair. so believe it or not, I could care less, because I'm happy with the results.
 
Mr.01 said:
Hmm, you're the only one who think that on this thread, and we're the NOOBS? How much are they paying you? This sites a joke, if your product works cool, if not don't try to lie to get it to sell.

AFstore.com 's YES product works much much better (and I WASNT paid to say this)

Maybe I'm the only one with at least half a brain, not sure. As for how much I'm being paid, I'll refer you back to the half a brain comment. Next, if the site is a joke, then get off it and spare yourself.

As for your AFstore comment, at what point did you use DermaTherm to compare your results accurately? Or were you just talking out your ass...again? I LOVE yohimburn, I've used it and will plug that any day of the week. But just because it works doesn't mean it's the only fat burner that's allowed to work, that's a bit retarded.
 
used2juice said:
Also, for those who are saying it's not the same person, they have the exact same posture and physical structure. The guy did not transform, he lost like 10-12lbs of fat. For those who think that takes trenbolone and other drugs, you shouldn't be using anything because you have no handle on what you SHOULD be doing to your body. 12lbs of fat and a tan will change a person's image, and it's not incredibly difficult to drop 12lbs and APPEAR thicker.

Besides Ironclaw (BTW good job bro), everyone else in this posts is making me feel like this is a board full of noobs. :(
thanks for the support bro...
 
ironclaw said:
thanks for the support bro...

No problem, I think these other guys have given you the greatest compliment. You managed to look so much better that you don't even look like you anymore lol.
 
I"d be happy to post up my diet and anything else someone wants to know about how I did this in 5 1/2 -6 weeks.

Diet: breakfast: protein shake, 4 eggs, (2 yolks), 1/2 bagel with peanut butter
meal 2: lean body shake
meal 3: chicken breast, or chicken tacos, fish, or lean beef with vegetables
meal 4: lean body shake
workout: before take various supplements, creatine, glutamine, aminos, etc
meal 5: post workout shake with 20 grams of carbs, and other supplements
meal 6: steak, or chicken, or hamburger, or bison meat with 50 g carbs
meal 7: protein shake before bed

workouts: I workout every day until I feel like I need a day off, which is usually every 10 days. 4 days of cardio for 20 minutes after working out, workouts usually last from 1 1/2 hrs. to 2 hrs each day, depending on body parts worked.

the clen and eca reallly helped and worked in synergy with the Dermatherm.

I burn a lot of calories at work, so leaning up is not hard for me when I stick to a strict diet and take other various supplements along with aas. I have a fast metablolism to begin with. any other questions just pm me or email me at [email protected]. thanks for all the supportive comments....
 
ironclaw said:
bro, I never hid the fact that I was on a heavy cutting cycle, :
1 gram of omnas ew
600 mg Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - ew
400 mg trenbolone ew
50 mg Winstrol - stanozolol ed
Clenbuterol and eca - ephedrine - caffeine - aspirin 2 weeks on 2 weeks off
strict diet and cardio

The pictures were taken about 1 week before I started the Dermatherm, and the after pics were taken about 5 days after the Derma ran out. So , there's about a 5 1/2 to 6 week time period in there actually. I said I ran the dermatherm for 4 weeks, the diet acutally started 1 week before I got the product. I know how my body responds to which anabolic androgenic steroids and diet and cardio, so I can honesstly tell you Dermatherm had a lot to do with the results I got in that time period.


The title of you the thread is a little misleading I would say dermatherm has had very little to do with your change in appearance compared to the 2.5 grams of gear you had a week
 
ironclaw said:
I would do 20 minutes of cardio about 4 times per week, and I stuck to a strick diet for the entire time. Under 2000 cals per day, high protein, low carbs for 4 days, then high carb day..

If this is true, than I find it plausable to do in 4 weeks what would take 8. However, don't think it was the therm that was responsible. If he actually does what he said, it was the determination and discipline that lost that weight.

Congratulations bro, you look solid.
 
Does anybody notice the guy that just joined TODAY and is attacking Ironclaws results and bumping AF products? :good:

Worldclass,

The guy has the Dermatherm banner in his signature because he is a tester. I gave him free product in exchange for him to keep up the banner and post a log. Otherwise he has no initiative to say good things, and if he didn’t think the product worked he could tell it as it way. Talk to other testers such as gjohnson, or bluetwistedsteel who are both very respected guys on this board. They also noticed great results from the product.

For those that want to read results from non-AAS users, check out this thread
http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/steroid-forum/derma-therm-testers-134252814.html

(One guy was using a light dose of anavar I believe)

I don’t think DermaTherm is totally responsible for the transformation but its certainly a large part of it…

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
Does anybody notice the guy that just joined TODAY and is attacking Ironclaws results and bumping AF products? :good:

Worldclass,

The guy has the Dermatherm banner in his signature because he is a tester. I gave him free product in exchange for him to keep up the banner and post a log. Otherwise he has no initiative to say good things, and if he didn’t think the product worked he could tell it as it way. Talk to other testers such as gjohnson, or bluetwistedsteel who are both very respected guys on this board. They also noticed great results from the product.

For those that want to read results from non-anabolic androgenic steroids users, check out this thread
http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/steroid-forum/derma-therm-testers-134252814.html

(One guy was using a light dose of anavar I believe)

I don’t think DermaTherm is totally responsible for the transformation but its certainly a large part of it…

-Pp

2.5 grams of gear per week a good diet and cardio is what gave him that 6 week transformation, Dermatherm may have played a very small part but thats about it.
Dont get me wrong im not saying your product doesnt work it probably does, but dont expect us to believe dermatherm is one of the major reasons for the change.
 
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