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The sarms sounds promising too. I wonder when the FDA is gonna put all the current stuff on their shit list. Just like last time. It was there one day and banned the next. I agree Radar, It took me a very extended pct when I stopped tren all together. It sucks but to me its worth it! Tribulus IMHO is bullshit! Tried it way back in the day. I have some formestane too now. Lots of routes to go, its all part of the experience of seeing what works best for you.
