Help with Tren

[tnez25]

Hey brothas jus needed advise from the pros I know Tren isn't everyone's ideal aas cycle but I ran a cycle awhile back n am planning to run again ,,,,,had pretty good results but didn't pct prob as good as I now know I should have ,,,,,but been reading all good advice in this forum and am learning a shit load of info. I've posted a few other questions before but don't know if questions were dumb ,cause got no response please inform me Wat I'm doin wrong..... Anyway. I'm 37 5'7 200 pound 15% bf not exact! So my question is if anyone out there hypothetically would run this how would you run it.......
1-4 dbol 10 ed
1-4 test p 100 eod
1-12 test e 125 ew
1-12 Tren e 125 ew
1-12 eq 150 ew

Pct
Forma
Post cycle II
Phytoserm
Caber

Also have some mk (osta) for bridge or front load .....
Please any prof. Help appreciated!


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[blue_steel74]

Hey brothas jus needed advise from the pros I know Tren isn't everyone's ideal aas cycle but I ran a cycle awhile back n am planning to run again ,,,,,had pretty good results but didn't pct prob as good as I now know I should have ,,,,,but been reading all good advice in this forum and am learning a shit load of info. I've posted a few other questions before but don't know if questions were dumb ,cause got no response please inform me Wat I'm doin wrong..... Anyway. I'm 37 5'7 200 pound 15% bf not exact! So my question is if anyone out there hypothetically would run this how would you run it.......
1-4 dbol 10 ed
1-4 test p 100 eod
1-12 test e 125 ew
1-12 Tren e 125 ew
1-12 eq 150 ew

Pct
Forma
Post cycle II
Phytoserm
Caber

Also have some mk (osta) for bridge or front load .....
Please any prof. Help appreciated!


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Well, first of all your doses ad esters are all messed up. Tren Ace should be ran with test prop. And tren should be ran at 100mg EOD. EQ has to be ran at 600-800 for it to really shine. And i would also run EQ for 16 weeks and not 12. And i wouldnt waste my time with 10mg of Dbol a day. Should be ran at about 30mg/day.

Also make sure you have some liver support for the oral

 

[tnez25]

The tren is ten e not ace,,,,so run dbol at 30. Wat bout osta

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[Mekat]

i really think it would be better if u capt this cycle short and sweet..how about..
1-4 dbol 20-30 mg/day
1-8 test p 100mg eod
1-8 tren ace 100mg eod
1-8 caber needs to be ran alongside tren

this type of cycle will allow ur body to recover a lot faster then a full blows 12 week cycle with long esters

really no need for EQ on this one, it needs to be ran for a minimum of 16 weeks too so its pointless

i would add low dose clomid to ur pct and also some unleashed


...ooops sry didnt realize u have the gear on hand, Tren E is some nasty shit tho,

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Hey brothas jus needed advise from the pros I know Tren isn't everyone's ideal aas cycle but I ran a cycle awhile back n am planning to run again ,,,,,had pretty good results but didn't pct prob as good as I now know I should have ,,,,,but been reading all good advice in this forum and am learning a shit load of info. I've posted a few other questions before but don't know if questions were dumb ,cause got no response please inform me Wat I'm doin wrong..... Anyway. I'm 37 5'7 200 pound 15% bf not exact! So my question is if anyone out there hypothetically would run this how would you run it.......
1-4 dbol 10 ed
1-4 test p 100 eod
1-12 test e 125 ew
1-12 Tren e 125 ew
1-12 eq 150 ew

Pct
Forma
Post cycle II
Phytoserm
Caber

Also have some mk (osta) for bridge or front load .....
Please any prof. Help appreciated!


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Yeah, its kinda allover the place bro. I dont really think you need the additional prop kickstart if you want to run dbol. There will be a big rollercoaster at the end of week 4 as you transition into the long esters after you have dropped the Prop and Dbol.

Also your only wanting to run Test E and Tren E at 125mg each? A week? Did you typo or are you trying to be conservative? Being conservative is ok if thats what your going for but your being too conservative IMHO. Test E should be 250mg wk. 125mg is a legit TRT dose. SO it will really do nothing for you in regards to building alot of mass. Tren E should be at a minimum of 200mg wk but most guys will tell you to get it up around 300-400mg wk. Thats up to you. I have zero experience with tren E. EQ also is pointless at 125mg wk. The majority of experience will tell you anything less than 16 weeks with eq a waste since it really doesnt show itself til around week 8. 300-400mg wk is usually the standard "safe" minimum for EQ.

Another issue with your doses as low as you have them is again, the big crash after week 4. 100mg prop EOD is a good cycle base. As is dbol even though 10mg probably wont be much more than a good pre workout boost. You'll get a nice level built up in your system with prop then crash down to normal test levels with 125mg test e week.

My suggestion for a safe sane cycle along the lines of what you wanted above would be:

1-12 test E 250mg wk
1-10 tren E 200-300mg wk
1-4 dbol 20-30 mg ED
.5mg caber E3D throughout cycle. Unless your prone to gyno then I wouldnt even use an AI at this low of a dose but I WOULD have one on hand.

Your PCT looks ok. Could add one or two things to make it even better.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

i really think it would be better if u capt this cycle short and sweet..how about..
1-4 dbol 20-30 mg/day
1-8 test p 100mg eod
1-8 tren ace 100mg eod
1-8 caber needs to be ran alongside tren

this type of cycle will allow ur body to recover a lot faster then a full blows 12 week cycle with long esters

really no need for EQ on this one, it needs to be ran for a minimum of 16 weeks too so its pointless

i would add low dose clomid to ur pct and also some unleashed


...ooops sry didnt realize u have the gear on hand, Tren E is some nasty shit tho,

This would have been my next cycle choice to use short esters ^^^^^

AND ALSO.....if you do run the dbol make sure you run a liver support supp and drink and assload of H2O.

 

[tnez25]

Coo brotha that's y I am askin all questions ,,,,,I will bump up doses of Tren e and test e ,,,,, any suggest about the osta ,,,,,or is it to much on cycle with the dbol,, or maybe come off last 4 weeks with it ,,,,, how bout hcg

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[burnthiscorpse]

Coo brotha that's y I am askin all questions ,,,,,I will bump up doses of Tren e and test e ,,,,, any suggest about the osta ,,,,,or is it to much on cycle with the dbol,, or maybe come off last 4 weeks with it ,,,,, how bout hcg

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I cannot speak on the OSTA. I'm not a sarms guy. Dylan gemelli is the resident sarms guru. Maybe PM him a link to this thread. But I think he will probably tell you to use the sarms during PCT.

HCG can be started at week 4 or 5 for long esters. thats when you will start to see shrinkage. Running it sooner is unecessary and just wasting your money. 250-500iu 2x wk right up until pct. You could also get HCgenerate and run it all the way from week 4-5 right through the END of PCt as its natural but definatley works. I can personally attest to that. It can get expensive though.

 

[tnez25]

When running dose so low I was jus running a cycle this other rat was running but never really researched it ,,,,I know dumb move ,,but too late now ,,, got hands on same sh*t again so jus thought to research it this time...

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[burnthiscorpse]

When running dose so low I was jus running a cycle this other rat was running but never really researched it ,,,,I know dumb move ,,but too late now ,,, got hands on same sh*t again so jus thought to research it this time...

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Research is your best friend. Scan this site for tren threads, tren/mast/prop cycles. Tren sides, caber, tren gyno, test gyno ect..... Educate as much as you can.

 

[tnez25]

Thanx again brotha all advice well taken.

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[dylangemelli]

There is no need at all to use ostarine during the cycle... i highly recommend it during pct and then after pct running a sarms bridge... burn gave you good advice on the cycle... just follow what he is saying and your in good hands... here is how to run your pct my friend...

[FONT=&quot]clomid 25/25/25/25 chemicalneed.com
Unleashed/post cycle combo
forma stanzol mrsupps.com
daa powerchews or powder

optional
ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com[/FONT]

 

[footdoc]

I agree with the others. Your dosages are too low to be really effective