Help with first cycle

[madsdad]

I need help for my first cycle. Was told to use

Teston QV200
Deca QV300
D-Bol
Winni-V
Clenbuterol

I am 5'9" and weigh 175lbs. Unsure of body fat, but am pretty lean, except my gut. I just have "excess skin" my wife says. Can someone please help me with a cycle of the above???

 

[Makavelli]

I need help for my first cycle. Was told to use

Teston QV200
Deca QV300
D-Bol
Winni-V
Clenbuterol

I am 5'9" and weigh 175lbs. Unsure of body fat, but am pretty lean, except my gut. I just have "excess skin" my wife says. Can someone please help me with a cycle of the above???

You don't have excess skin. You have too much fat there. What are you trying to accomplish?

 

[madsdad]

I want to to get big, but cut...not just thick looking. I used to weigh about 220lbs. and got down to about 163lbs. before starting to work out again. Have gained 15+ of muscle, but want more.

 

[trinidad]

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=436141

 

[BOWTECH]

How much do you have of each?

 

[madsdad]

Haven't gotten it yet. Waiting to get cycle first so I can purchase all at once.

 

[Bruce]

well i suggest you scratch that big stack and run 500mg of qv test enanthate a week for your first cycle. kick it off with the dbol or finish it with the winny. don't stack all those things for your first cycle. run the test for 10-12 weeks and the dbol the first 4 or if you run winny the last five weeks of the cycle

 

[Makavelli]

well i suggest you scratch that big stack and run 500mg of qv test enanthate a week for your first cycle. kick it off with the dbol or finish it with the winny. don't stack all those things for your first cycle. run the test for 10-12 weeks and the dbol the first 4 or if you run winny the last five weeks of the cycle

I gotta disagree with ya Bruce. There's nothing wrong with stacking on a first cycle.

 

[madsdad]

Tell me more Makavelli...

 

[Bruce]

i don't think there is anything wrong with stacking on first cycle but dbol deca test and winny is a little much for a first time.

 

[madsdad]

So Bruce410, can you help me out with what was suggested?

 

[Bruce]

if you really want to run that cycle do it like this
500mg test a week 12 weeks
400mg deca a week 12 weeks
dbol 30mg ed weeks 1-4
winny 50mg ed weeks 9-13
pct after your last shot of winny

 

[madsdad]

Thanks Bruce410...help me out, what is pct and can you help me with the conversions?

 

[Bruce]

what is pct? oh lord. go to the post cycle therapy forum and read up on hcg and nolvadex and all those goodies. you will not keep any gains without a solid pct.
the conversions are simple man, if you have deca 300/ml then one cc or ml is going to contain 300mg. same goes for the test. the winny i suggest you get tablets and the dbols will be tabs. find out what dose they are, if they are 5mg tabs you need to take 6 dbols spread throughout the day, same with the winstrol. seriously though you can save a lot of money by running test with one of the orals and you will get great results. its better to see what your body gets out of one compound like test. throwing in an oral is fine but i say wait till next time for the deca

 

[bigtravis]

i don't think there's anythink wrong with stacking on the first one either. hell, i tell everybody starting out to do the deca/d-bol/cyp run. but as for you bro. i think if you want to stay lean. try test. prop. at 300mg instead of cyp. or enanth. and maybe go with t-bol instead of d-bol.

 

[Outtlaw]

if you really want to run that cycle do it like this
500mg test a week 12 weeks
400mg deca a week 12 weeks
dbol 30mg ed weeks 1-4
winny 50mg ed weeks 9-13
pct after your last shot of winny

Unnecesary. No need to run all that for a 1st cycle. I know Bruce was just setting this up in the case that you were gonna do it anyway, but I have to cut in here. Just pick 1 or 2 things and see how your body reacts.

 

[Bruce]

thanks outlaw dog, i said that at the beginning

 

[madsdad]

Thanks Bruce! I appreciate all your help!!!

 

[Bruce]

no problem, if you are looking for more lean gains i suggest you go with the test and winnny, if you want to bulk go with the dbol. diet will play a huge role in this but if your diet is in check and you should be lean enough by the time the winstrol starts to get vascular and ripped. winny will only rip you up if you are lean, if youre not it will make you stronger it is not a fat burner

 

[madsdad]

I appreciate it...hope to be in touch with you again!