Help with first cycle and androgel mess

[Kipper821]

Doin androgel 1.62% 2 pumps a day. I tried to wean off this shit but my fuckn joints were killin me. I wanna stArt a legit cycle. I did deca 300mg/1 ml for 5 weeks and popped some anadrol and methyl test tables on and off. Im 5'7 180. I was 170 before the deca. I got stronger and shit. My diet is improving. Im 37 prolly 14% bf. I want to start a cutting cycle with low estro conversion. Ie winni or tren. I dont know shit about all this, just tryn to get a legit cut cycle without lossing good size. I need to get the fuck off the gel too. Can anybody reccomend a cycle..


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[Shrine1]

why did you only do the deca for 5 weeks.. Sounds like you are in uncharted territories.

Have you gotten any blood work done? Are you in PCT? I would watch this video and start to educate yourself on what you are doing.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...a-durabolin-nandrolone-decanoate-1362793.html

 

[Race121]

I want to wean off of heroin. Is Oxycontin ok? What doses?

 

[RickRock13]

You sound like you should do a lot more research before doing a cycle considering the poor setup you ran before. Are you on TRT? Why are you on androgel?

 

[Kipper821]

Ha race, chuckle.
Rick idk, just started experimenting. Gonna get off it. I know it sounds like child's play, but bottom line it exogenous T, and it suppressed my T, so now i feel like shit when i wean. In terms of the deca and the orals. I wasn't sure if the site i ordered from was legit, so i kinda just bought whatever, hoping it would come. So now ima trt to wean the gel but dont wanna crash... So u want to start tren and win. Then do a pct. I mean a pct is just another cycle of drugs, really. I mean how long can this shit go on for?


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[Kipper821]

I guess basically i wanna get the fuck off this gel, and run some beginner cycles and need help on how to do that. I been on this gel for a fuckn year, solely based on the fact that i could get and tryn to keep up with my 20 something gym partner, ill be pushin 37 in a couple months...i know ridiculous but i need some advice..


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[Kipper821]

Thanx for the vid, everybody always talks about running test with their cycle. Which test, how much..how long..etc..could Androgel be used as the test source?
Can a pct solely be Hcg?
Im a novice and i apologize for the ignorance, but its Alotta shit to learn


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[Leather Neck]

Why androgel at 2 pumps? That's a trt dose

 

[Kipper821]

What do u mean by trt? Im just doin it for shits snd giggles i guess. Does make me stronger but i wanna stop and just start running some nirmal cycles


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[Leather Neck]

TRT- testosterone replacement therapy, when a persons body longer naturally produces testosterone.