Help Setting Up Juice Please!!!!

[blooddrinker69]

Hey guys I am getting set to start my PCT on my current cycle. So naturally I am already thinking of what I should do next. The cycle I am on now consisted of test c peaking at a little over 500 mg's and 5 weeks of t-bol peaking at 50 mg a day. I have Test E and Decca on hand which will be the back-bone of my next cycle. I would like to add something else in not because I need to but because I have the extra cash and it would make me feel better. I am not married to something that cuts fat but I do naturally go towards a cutter being that I have had a lifelong battle with my heavy weight.
So please help me pick one (or two if it not big health risk) of the following choices where you tend to keep alot of your gains and may loose a little fat that I can mix with test e and decca. Basically I want the best sounding most effective cycle possible by adding from the following list to the deca and test e. Please include dosages i have not fully decided dosages of the deca and test e yet[/b]
Choices:
Oral Masteron
Proviron (spelling prob wrong but u know what I mean)
Anadrol
Anavar
Tren Hex
Tren Ace
Winny
Primobolan
Anadrolic
Anabol

Your advice will be appreciated greatly. Thank-you very much!
6'1 200, 13 years lifting on and off hard the past four, will be my third cycle, I will be following time on + PCT = Time off

 

[needtogetaas]

Hey guys I am getting set to start my PCT on my current cycle. So naturally I am already thinking of what I should do next. The cycle I am on now consisted of test c peaking at a little over 500 mg's and 5 weeks of t-bol peaking at 50 mg a day. I have Test E and Decca on hand which will be the back-bone of my next cycle. I would like to add something else in not because I need to but because I have the extra cash and it would make me feel better. I am not married to something that cuts fat but I do naturally go towards a cutter being that I have had a lifelong battle with my heavy weight.
So please help me pick one (or two if it not big health risk) of the following choices where you tend to keep alot of your gains and may loose a little fat that I can mix with test e and decca. Basically I want the best sounding most effective cycle possible by adding from the following list to the deca and test e. Please include dosages i have not fully decided dosages of the deca and test e yet[/b]
Choices:
Oral Masteron
Proviron (spelling prob wrong but u know what I mean)
Anadrol
Anavar
Tren Hex
Tren Ace
Winny
Primobolan
Anadrolic
Anabol

Your advice will be appreciated greatly. Thank-you very much!
6'1 200, 13 years lifting on and off hard the past four, will be my third cycle, I will be following time on + PCT = Time off

test/deca/beastdrol bro.

weeks
1-12 test-e 500mg ew
1-10 deca 300mg ew
1-4 beastdrol 30mg ed
5-12 hcg 500ius every week

12-16 Testosterone Recovery Stack and clomid 25mg ed for the full 4 weeks.

Keep arimadex,femra, and bromo on hand for sides. rchealthdrugs.com is a good place for this.

 

[LiquidPhire]

Personally id never use deca in a cutter , it bloats me up severely I retain so much water on it even with an AI It wouldnt be in my selection to "cut" neither would Test E but thats what you have, I would save the deca for another time if your goal is to cut and run the test E with some var or winstrol. Personally Id do Test E @ 500mg 1-12 , last 4 weeks var @ 60-80mg a day with an AI throughout as needed to prevent water bloat from test E (I bloat on it) Also watch sodium intake while "on" as for me personally when running test E If I consume lots of sodium - water retaining sucks. Fav cutters Test /Tren/ Masteron - Test P / Var. This is just my personal opinion make sure you are healthy before consuming ANY AAS and remember BLOODWORK!!

 

[blooddrinker69]

Thank-you very much for the solid reply liquid. I know that the deca is not good for a cutter cycle. However, I heard it was good to stack the decca with winstrol, but I might be wrong. I am guessing the cheapest and most effective way for me to go would be to use what I have and run a cycle of test e, decca, and winstrol. That way the winstrol would make sure there are no progesterone related sides with the decca. I just don't know if it is okay to run the test e with them as well. Could I please get some furthur advice about the possibility of running these three. I might just have to do away with the decca ands start over from scratch....

 

[burnthiscorpse]

if weight is a concern then i wouldnt use deca. Although if you eat clean, you may just gain nothing more than a little extra water from it(besides the muscle I mean).
The saying is, theres nothing to replace proper diet , training and cardio for cutting. We all know that. But IMHO the only thing that would really go the extra mile IMHO to help strip the fat off you above and beyong any other AAS is tren. Not that I'm trying to advise using tren too early. But If you really want to cut, and hold your muscle on a calorie restricted diet with ample cardio then I would say since you have cycled a couple times that maybe

Test P wk 1-8 100mg EOD or 50mg ED
Tren Ace wk 1-6 or 7 50-75mg EOD

Biggest reason not to try tren too early is alot of new guys cant handle the sides, night sweats, BP, ect. Some get major sides, some take 150mg ED and get next to no sides.
I would say if you choose, start low. Nothing wrong with that. And use Ace. That way doses can be adjusted daily or if you need to drop it, its out of your system quickly.
Its definatley the best AAS IMHO for changing the composition of your body.
Again, not that I have a hard-on for tren on a third cycle, but if your one of those bros who has a good head on his shoulders and has got your shit together then I dont really see a problem with it.

I think the deca winstrol thing is in regards to deca lubing your joints to make up for the fact that Winny can fuck your joints/tendons. Doesnt do it to everyone but it can. Thats why you never see me use or recomend it. Even though its a great cutter.

 

[blooddrinker69]

Thank-you very much burn. I have been thinking about tren ace for a while now. Since I already have the test-e could I mabey do a tren-ace and test e cycle? It is not usual to do a test-e, decca, and tren-a cycle is it? Also, what are your feelings about boldenone prop.

 

[LiquidPhire]

Blood, you should really do some more research, deca and tren are nandrolones and even by themselves can have some NASTY irreversible side effects. Of course theres things to counter-act potential problems but why risk it? Why not see how your own body reacts to just Test E? Ive ran it solo before and made great gains..

 

[burnthiscorpse]

As far as deca /tren together, I wouldnt do it if you want to cut. The biggest thing with mixing those is having a-dex and letro and dostinex or caber(same thing) ESPECIALLY.
The nandrolones together seriously increase the chance of nandro sides especially nandro gyno. Nandro gyno isnt estrogen gyno like test, however the nandrolone gyno symptoms need a very estrogen rich environment to take place in. So if you were running alot of test then I would be careful.
After speaking with Needto and Hayez about this cycle they both told me that test+ tren+ deca= . My next cycle was set to be 600mg test E wk, 100mg tren ace EOD, and 400mg deca wk. But I opted to cut first so it will look like this.
Wk 1-10(maybe 12) 450-600mg test E
wk 1-8 or 9 100mg tren a EOD
wk 1-9 100mg deca (just hrt for joints)

Next cycle after will be sustanon EOD and tren + deca at a higher dose.

Yes you could use test E for sure. You just may get a little wayer from it where as you wouldnt with prop. Just keep it light. 300-500mg week.
Also dont mix the tren with deca until you try tren on its own. That way you know how you handle it. You got time, dont rush it

I have never used bold prop, I have never heard anything good about the short EQ ester. There were a few threads on it a while back.
On the deca side, you might also want to look into NPP too. Alot of guys say its all the goodness of deca without the water or major sides. However some bros still get all the same deca issues.

 

[blooddrinker69]

Everything is now all set-up as far as what I will have on hand unless I decide to add to my arsenal before next cycle. I will have on hand decca, test-e, t-bol, proviron, nolva, and winstrol. I might add in equipose before then to sub for decca. I might also sub in the tren as you said for the winny. I will have the option to change things before then. As of now I am going with some version the following. Possibly cutting out the t-bol and/or proviron.
Week 1-10 test-e peaking at 600mg a week
Week 1-10 decca at 400mg a week
Week 5-10 winstrol 50 mg a day
Week 1-10 proviron 50 mg a day
Week 1-5 t-bol 50 mg a day
Week 11-15 nolva 20 mg a day