Help.. Problems!

[iron_matt-CB]

Ok so I'm 6 weeks into a sust 500mgs a week primo 625mgs a week cycle.... 2 weeks ago I went to the doctor because my abdomen and lower back were really hurting.. It felt like I had gas issues and I was also peeing more than usual.. I took a laxative and gasx prior to my visit and it didn't help... She pressed all over my abdomen and I didn't feel any pain so she said it was probably a constipation issue.. She also ordered blood an urine tests... Well everything was normal expect I had a high white blood cell count a 14.9 on a normal scale of 5-10.4.. She said this is possibly because of the constipation... It's been 2 weeks since my doc visit and i still have back pain and occasional gas/pressure in my lower abdomen area.. Last night I could barely sleep my back was fuckin killing me.... Could this be a muscle strain of some sort?? Would back muscle pain radiate to the stomAch and cause pressure and gassy feelings??I'm wondering if i should stop my cycle because i didn't have these issues before my cycle.. I hate to do that but I'm at a loss here.. I'm stretching as much as possible and that helps a little but not total relief... What do you guys think?? Am I over reacting? Should i stop the gear? Thanks guys

 

[badhabit08]

are you eating a lot of gassy foods? oatmeal, broccoli, beans, milk?

 

[iron_matt-CB]

No... I eat oatmeal 2-3x a week and brocolli maybe 2-3x a week

 

[badhabit08]

back pumps then maybe?

 

[iron_matt-CB]

Ya I thought about that cause everything is very tight all the time.. My fucking hamstrings start binding up on me first thing in the morning which is weird... But that has never happen to me on cycle before.. Is primo or sust known to cause back pumps?? It also doesn't explain the gassy feeling in my stomach..... I feel like a fucking 90 year old lol

 

[joe d]

No... I eat oatmeal 2-3x a week and brocolli maybe 2-3x a week

you should be eating broccoli 2-3x per day.

the issue could be anything. i would go to the hospital and incist they check out your organs. xray and ultrasound. you may want to quit the cycle or cruize low until you find out what the issue is and get back in the gym.

 

[C.K.]

I take a laxative (ex lax) twice a week while bulking just to stay regular...

 

[RADAR]

Get another Doc,a Hi white Cell count indicates theres a problem/infection


RADAR

 

[mrplunkey]

Did you get a PSA test? A prostate problem can manifest itself as back/abdominal pain. The "peeing more than usual" makes me suspicious too.

Also, check your renal function (bloodwork). A lot of kidney problems also look like back pain.

Regardless, get another doc and confess you're doing gear.

 

[goin on 4T]

I would cut the gear and get your dr to get active, this is nothing to sit around and see if it is going to get better!

 

[iron_matt-CB]

Good call RADAR...which brings me to another question. Are you experiencing a fever at all? Also, even after drinking a ton of water, is your urine discolored?

My tempature was fine but I have experienced chills in the last couple weeks.. I would either get really cold or really hot.. Wierd..... First thing in the morning my urine is a orange color and foamy but after drinking lots of water it returns to a light yellow color... I did have a urinalasys and everything came back good including bun and creatinine levels.... I'm just thinking maybe my gear has some bacteria in it or something.. Kind of wierd how 2 weeks into the cycle and I'm having these problems

 

[iron_matt-CB]

I forgot to mention that I am also taking minocycline for acne but have been on that for almost 2 months now


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[mrplunkey]

I just realized something else too... you're on one compound that converts to DHT (test) and another that is DHT-based (primo). Guess where you have a lot of DHT receptors? -- your prostate.

Get a digital rectal exam of your prostate (yeah, finger up your butt). I'll bet you have an inflamed prostate. And I believe an inflamed prostate can also elevate your white blood cell count.

 

[eClenbuterol]

I just realized something else too... you're on one compound that converts to DHT (test) and another that is DHT-based (primo). Guess where you have a lot of DHT receptors? -- your prostate.

Get a digital rectal exam of your prostate (yeah, finger up your butt). I'll bet you have an inflamed prostate. And I believe an inflamed prostate can also elevate your white blood cell count.

Everything sure is pointing to that

 

[iron_matt-CB]

I just realized something else too... you're on one compound that converts to DHT (test) and another that is DHT-based (primo). Guess where you have a lot of DHT receptors? -- your prostate.

Get a digital rectal exam of your prostate (yeah, finger up your butt). I'll bet you have an inflamed prostate. And I believe an inflamed prostate can also elevate your white blood cell count.

Let's say that is the case... Would droppng the gear solve the issue??

 

[iron_matt-CB]

Or maybe just the primo and keep the test where it is... I've used sust many times with no issues this is however my first time using primobolan


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[Nitro79]

I forgot to mention that I am also taking minocycline for acne but have been on that for almost 2 months now


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read this carefully bro , it's what happened to me too , u r taking an antibiotic (minocycline) to treat the acne and 2 months is too long i'm pretty sure u screw up ur intestinal balance and immune system leading to something called candidiasis (a fungal infection)
antibiotics kill the good bacteria in ur intestine that are involved with ur immunity i still suffer from the bloating and still taking probiotics and took an antifungal (fluconazol)to clean it b4 is what u should do, but first go check ur stools (ur shit man i know it's disgusting) take a sample to a lab that's the only way to be sure if there are fungus (candidiasis) colonies and check it with ur doctor too maybe he missed it, and i suggest if u do some research on the net on it

good luck bro

 

[mrplunkey]

read this carefully bro , it's what happened to me too , u r taking an antibiotic (minocycline) to treat the acne and 2 months is too long i'm pretty sure u screw up ur intestinal balance and immune system leading to something called candidiasis (a fungal infection)
antibiotics kill the good bacteria in ur intestine that are involved with ur immunity i still suffer from the bloating and still taking probiotics and took an antifungal (fluconazol)to clean it b4 is what u should do, but first go check ur stools (ur shit man i know it's disgusting) take a sample to a lab that's the only way to be sure if there are fungus (candidiasis) colonies and check it with ur doctor too maybe he missed it, and i suggest if u do some research on the net on it

good luck bro

Damn -- good catch. I would have never thought about that one.

 

[RADAR]

I forgot to mention that I am also taking minocycline for acne but have been on that for almost 2 months now


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Did you tell the Doc you were taking that?
Minocycline may cause upset stomach, diarrhea, dizziness, unsteadiness, drowsiness, headache and vomiting. Minocycline increases sensitivity to sunlight. It has also been linked to cases of lupus. Minocycline can reduce the effectiveness of oral contraceptives. Prolonged use of Minocycline over an extended period of time can lead to blue-gray skin or teeth discoloration. Rare but serious side effects include fever, yellowing of the eyes or skin, stomach pain, sore throat, vision changes, and mental changes, including depersonalization.

Minocycline, but not other tetracyclines, can cause vestibular disturbances with dizziness, ataxia, vertigo and tinnitus. This side effect is much more common in women than in men, occurring in 50% to 70% of women receiving minocycline. As a result of this frequency and bothersome side effect, minocycline is rarely used in female patients.

Symptoms of an allergic reaction include rash, itching, swelling, severe dizziness, and trouble breathing. Minocycline has also been reported to cause idiopathic intracranial hypertension (pseudotumor cerebri).









RADAR

 

[joe d]

Let's say that is the case... Would droppng the gear solve the issue??

no man go to the hospital or get your doctor to take this more serously and run more tests.

 

[iron_matt-CB]

Thanks for all the info guys....I really appreciate it.


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[Nitro79]

Thanks for all the info guys....I really appreciate it.


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ur welcome bro just keep us informed of ur news

 

[iron_matt-CB]

Update... Ok so after taking in all your Information I dropped the minocycline about 6 days ago and I also dropped milk and cereal out of my diet and sticking with oatmeal in the morning.. The past 2 nights I was in a ton of pain in my back so I thought for sure it was kidney stones and schedules another doctors visit today.. He went over the Same protocols as the np did and pressed all around my stomach, checked my hands and feet for swelling, listened to my stomach and breathing... Last night was hell but today I feel great! WTF! Anyway he says he doesn't think it's anythkng to worry about and says it's most likely something I changed in my diet i.e the cereal or milk possibly... Anyway he drew blood an took urine again and I'm scheduled for a ct scan of my entire abdomen and pelvis so that should definately rule out any potential problems... He said gas pains can definately radiate to the back an be very painfull.. He also said it can take up to a week for the food that caused this to clear the system.. I gave up those foods about 4-5 days ago and kind of ironic that I'm feeling well today...


Ok so this has really scared me and all I was thinking is it was the gear I'm using.. Primo and sust... Am I over thinking this? Should I stop my cycle? would sust and primo possibly cAuse this type of condition? I wouldn't think so and I hate to cut it short cause im starting to see nice results! I have health anxiety an I'll I keep thinking is what I'f I'm injecting some bad shit and it's infecting me! I would think that if the gear was bad that I would get injection site infections or something... AnywAy I'm a paranoid mess and need some advice... Thanks again guys!

 

[RADAR]

Thats good to hear...Yes i had gas build up like that man! it felt like my body was gonna explode because the pain was so bad!

RADAR

 

[d baller]

I hope you're drinking a gallon of water a day. If not, could be kidney pain. Also, stretch after every workout for 10 minutes and also on your off days. I had serious hammy, calf, and lower back cramping problems. Started a strict stretching regimen and they went away.