Help please-AAS and Acne.

[Growth&Courage]

Hey I'm new here..in my early 20s around 185 lbs...5'9

Would like to know what to use for my second cycle that would least likely cause any acne at all. My first cycle was sust and deca for 15-20 weeks and I was affected with roid acne big time. Now I'm left with acne scarring on my chest and some on the back. (taking off my shirt is now a concern)

I'm extremely hesitant to use anymore AAS from that expereince, however apart from acne I love the feelings, motivation and results I get while on AAS....and I don't think I can achieved those sensations while being AAS-free- not the pumps, the motivation, results wise etc.

I'm seriously considering going on to something again with the consideration that it has to hardly affect my skin at all. If this second time I were to be hit hard with acne and scarring again I would never touch AAS again in my life.

Hoping that this second cycle would allow me to grow w/o the acne that would otherwise impinge on my self-esteem when I take off my clothes.

How about EQ 400-600mg weekly? Would that have any effect on my skin?
What about deca and very low dose of test?
I'm thinking that low doses or the commonly known mild anabolics would probably yield less acne, but that's probably naive of me to think such way.

I do understand that it really is based on the individual reaction to the particular AAS, some people don't get any at all from high doses, some do etc, however are there any concensus, findings or knowledge in relation to steroid & acne that I should know and hopefully will guide me to the right direction into choosing the right AAS for the purpose of growing whilst having clear skin.
(Is that too much to ask for? Growth AND clear skin? Everyone seems to be acheiving that)

Not looking to try megadoses of B12 while on cycle...also I am on acctane now (2nd course).

Serious advice needed please. Really wish to grow more and have clear skin.

 

[biggeek]

sort of in the same boat man.. but i've always had somewhat of a facial problem.. and i let it get a little hand on my last test/tren cycle.. still trying to recover from it but unsuccesfully... on minocycline.. and finascea.. and benzoyl peroxide.. tanning beds.. still doesn't help.. ha ha

I'm a little worried about what to run next as well.. hoping to get on accutane and get this all cleared up.. if not.. then i don't know.. Var is always good and has little side effects of any kind.. but some people can only get the real expensive stuff.. good luck man..

 

[SpiritCrusher]

Dudes- try doing a cycle without test--- since the test is often the agonist causing the cursed acne. I had an acne problem when I was younger, expected a major beakout during my first cycle-- I ran dbol and deca--- my skin CLEARED UP to my big surprise. As soon I I touched test that all changed... Weird shit, but with me thatr's the way it is....

 

[novice ck]

ive heard alot of talk of using bactrim ds to clear up acene.....not as harsh on drying out your skin or near as bad for your liver.....any experience with this?

 

[RADAR]

B-5 works wonders at a gram & Above.
You will have to try it to see how you respond to it.

Its also called Pantheonic Acid


RADAR

 

[monkey arms]

Try Eq or Primo, these are mostly Anabolic and Less Androgenic. It is the Androgenic part of AAS that cause the acne. Test being both highly anabolic and androgenic.

 

[Jeeps427]

I have a friend on primo now and he loves it no side effects as of yet and i believe he is in his 5th week

 

[tical]

anavar, primo, eq might all be good but remember acne is related to hormones... you will get acne if you're sensitive (especially during and after PCT)

I broke out my worst during and after PCT for a while... gross shoulder and back acne...

Think smart about the whole thing here, if you're on cycle theres a good chance you'll start developing some acne since you're sensitive... stay away from orals and things that would effect your liver enzymes. If you need to, when your acne is at its peak hit a couple derms until you get prescribed accutane, remember some derms are real hesitant to prescribe it and some are real easy going about it... I had to go to 3 before I found one that was totally fine with it.

during treatment you should clear up dramatically and it will also add an incentive for future cycles since you won't break out as bad anymore

 

[KR177]

B5 has helped me alot

 

[Growth&Courage]

Ok...so EQ is more anabolic and less androgenic hence there is a lesser chance that my skin will break out?

Is that what you guys are saying?

How about EQ 400-600mg per week without any test invovled?
Probably sounds weak, but if it's going to grow me moderately and acne-free I'm OK with it.


So definitely go with EQ?

Anymore help greatly appreciated. I'm very concerned here.

 

[nydj66]

B-5 works wonders at a gram & Above.
You will have to try it to see how you respond to it.

Its also called Pantheonic Acid


RADAR

I just starting using Pantothenic acid for acne last week and the effect was dramatic and immediate. I take 1g in the morning and 1g at night.

 

[jghgdl]

How does vitamin B5 work?
The working theory of B5’s anti-acne effect is that acne vulgaris (“vulgaris” from the Latin word for “common”) is really a symptom of a B5 deficiency in the body. Normally, B5 is used in the body to create and regulate hormones, process lipids (fats), etc. But when the body’s B5 pool is depleted, B5 (as coenzyme-A) is allocated according to the body’s own survival priorities. In other words, hormones and neural function are given as much available B5 as possible, with the process of fat metabolism receiving whatever B5 is left over from the more important processes.

How does this relate to acne? Well, when they’re not burned for fuel or stored for future use, extra fats are excreted, among other methods, through the skin as a fat-rich oil called “sebum”. The skin normally has a certain amount of oil released through the sebaceous glands as a means of lubrication. But when there are excess lipids to be eliminated, they are excreted through the sebaceous glands as extra sebum. Thus one experiences “oily” skin.

The skin naturally has a number of blocked pores at any given time, either because of dirt, unshed skin cells or solidified sebum, but the normal output of oil is so low that there is little appreciable build-up of oil behind the blockages. In the case of excess sebum secretion, blocked pores quickly become flooded with sebum, creating a buildup that not only causes a noticeable bump or “comedone”, but also an environment where bacteria may flourish, sometimes causing the pore and surrounding skin to become infected.

How do I take it?
Take anywhere from 3-10 grams a day. Some people do a loading phase, some not.

It is highly recommended to take your doses of B5 divided up evenly over the day. For example, if you were taking 6 grams of B5 per day, you would do well to take six 1-gram doses, spaced out as evenly as possible. The reason for spacing out your doses is that the body can only make use of so much B5 (or any nutrient) at a time.

Trying to take the 6 grams of B5 all at once would really only result in a waste of the excess that the body can’t absorb, and it wouldn’t allow much coverage for your body’s B5 needs throughout the rest of the day. The ideal might be to take as many small doses throughout the day as possible, but it isn’t always practical to take doses on every hour or half-hour. Every two or three hours appears to work best for most people.

ElJessE