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Hello all, need some help on my first cycle. im 21 year old and been training with heavy weights for about 2 years now. my protein is about 200grams a day with food and protein shakes. I have just started deca taking 200mg a week and i am on my second week and taking it for 12 weeks in total. I also take 10mg nolvadex everyday.

My goals are to increase lean muscle mass and a increase in strength but want to keep gains after my cycle.

Also read up on deca dik, can someone please help!!
Cheers!!!!
 
I think 200mg Deca alone is a bit low. And Im guessing many will tell you to add some test, to help for the decadick AND gains
 
No, I'm sure everyone will agree that you are too young for AAS and haven't done enough research to be taking them in the first place!!
 
oh boy... who told you to only do deca... and at 200mgs? also you're a little young to be using AS imo.
try and find some test or you could get 'decadick'. If I were you I would starting reading as much as possible to figiure out what you are doing.
GL
 
Don't take nolva with Deca, can increase the sides. You started a cycle without knowing what you're doing? What's your stats? Height, weight, BF etc
 
dopename said:
No, I'm sure everyone will agree that you are too young for AAS and haven't done enough research to be taking them in the first place!!
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YUP! More research needed and more time as well. You shouldn't touch anything for several years yet.
 
Like everyone else has stated, you should you waited till you were older...ie 25+ However since you have already started, I would drop the deca and find some test cyp or enth. Run it at 400mg/week combined with a good diet should give you some decent results. What do you have planned for your PCT?
 
pov said:
Hello all, need some help on my first cycle. im 21 year old and been training with heavy weights for about 2 years now. my protein is about 200grams a day with food and protein shakes. I have just started deca taking 200mg a week and i am on my second week and taking it for 12 weeks in total. I also take 10mg nolvadex everyday.

My goals are to increase lean muscle mass and a increase in strength but want to keep gains after my cycle.

Also read up on deca dik, can someone please help!!
Cheers!!!!
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Congratulations! You've done EVERYTHING wrong.

Too young.

Too little training.

Didn't explore other options. (Supps, training techniques, diet, etc)

Deca is a poor choice, especially as a first cycle and especially alone.

Nolva does nothing to combat deca induced sides and may make them worse. And you're taking too much.

You asked advice after the fact.

This can be a sticky for a recipe for disaster.

Hope you enjoy impotence.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Congratulations! You've done EVERYTHING wrong.

Too young.

Too little training.

Didn't explore other options. (Supps, training techniques, diet, etc)

Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - is a poor choice, especially as a first cycle and especially alone.

Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - does nothing to combat Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - induced sides and may make them worse. And you're taking too much.

You asked advice after the fact.

This can be a sticky for a recipe for disaster.

Hope you enjoy impotence.
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LOL, I don't know much about steroids, but I knew this much. Come on bro, you only get one body, why are you screwing it all up. I don't think people ever think crap will happen to them until after they have to deal with side effects. Have fun.
 
dopename said:
No, I'm sure everyone will agree that you are too young for AAS and haven't done enough research to be taking them in the first place!!
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agreed..still has room to grow naturally...diet..diet...diet
 
who else is getting sick and tired of this crap? when a lot of bros started using steroids there was no google button, no computer,,, they read books and asked around, ,,, you have every tool at your disposal and you are still a bone head,, just taking whatever you were able to get knowing nothing about nothing......

It is ignorant and is the reason steroids are looked upon the way they are,dont blame the drug, blame the user who does not want to put the time in checking out what exactaly they are going to put into thier body........

I got a whole gallon of this green kool-aid will add 20 lbs on you pure muscle ----- would you drink it?----- cmon bro be smarter then that,, read up,, nothing else to say..
 
Hey bro, i know everyones bashin you (you ARE an idiot, dumbass) but u need to know what to do.

1) Find Test. You need to be sticking that shit up ur ass, not deca. You must find test and if you cant you need to get these things.

Clomid - 50mg ED 2 weeks after ur last shot
Sustain Alpha - 5 pumps ED 2 weeks after ur last shot
POST CYCLE - 6 pills ED 2 weeks after ur last shot

If you feel ur nips getting lumpy, or tender/sore u need to get cabaser/dostinex. .5mg e3d.

IMHO id drop everything u have and buy POST CYCLE (bb.com) and SUSTAIN ALPHA (primordialperformance.com). ALso see if u can go to ur doc and m,aybe get clomid? (not too sure if u could do that, but worth a try.)

Next time u need to know what ur doing before u ask questions like u heard of deca dick. If u actually knew what deca dick was, then u wouldnt be taking deca alone. Hopefully u can recover next time make it a simple test cycle
 
DAmn i agree with yall but really got to get on his balls that bad. All he has to do is stop now. Research. And start back up in a few months.
 
I'm sorry man. I hope you don't feel too bad about this. Every day people are making the same mistakes and you're not alone.

Seriously though, can't count how many people fuck up their first time out. Don't let it get to you. The best thing you can do right now is obtain the knowledge you need to understand why this is a mistake. Then get it sorted asap.

I suggest you start reading everything you can find on deca, nandrolones, test and PCT. If you are in the UK I believe you can look Mick Hart up and give him a call. He's got some funny ideas but he can probably point you in the right direction.

Good luck and make sure to do your reading.
 
str8nubin said:
I'm sorry man. I hope you don't feel too bad about this. Every day people are making the same mistakes and you're not alone.

Seriously though, can't count how many people fuck up their first time out. Don't let it get to you. The best thing you can do right now is obtain the knowledge you need to understand why this is a mistake. Then get it sorted asap.

I suggest you start reading everything you can find on deca, nandrolones, test and PCT. If you are in the UK I believe you can look Mick Hart up and give him a call. He's got some funny ideas but he can probably point you in the right direction.

Good luck and make sure to do your reading.
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You are a patient man.

Good stuff bro.
 
hi all, cheers for the insults and advice, all is welcome. i did do LOADS od research about sreroids but maybe not enough. i researched steroids for atleast 4 months and thought Deca would be a good option because of the side effects. my stats are..
6"1
194 lbs
12.5% BF

I have nolvadex because eurobolic.com reccomends taking 10mg everyday with all cycles.
I was influenced by the deca only cycle because many 1st time users have used a deca only cycle.
Im convinced and will add Test now. Ive read up on sustanon to be a good choice.
any more help on this toppic would be appreciated. also will be taking clomid after cycle.
 
You CAN run deca alone BUT there is a very good chance you will have a limp noodle the whole time. You should run test with deca to counter this. It doesn't matter what kind; sust, enth, cyp, prop, whatever is fine.

No nolvadex with deca. That euro web site or whatever it is is apparently not a worthy source of steroid knowledge. Do not use it any more.

If you don't mind having a limp cock and man titties, by all means run deca alone and take nolvadex.
 
Cheers mate, i wont use that site no more, ill stop nolva, will add sustanon next week, how much shall i take, 500mg?
 
I am sorry bro for also giving you crap. I just don't think people take their bodies serious. I took some crap 2 years ago, and didn't do it properly, and now im paying the penalty.
 
so for example. ill be having..
On Tuesdays 200mg deca, 250mg of sus
On Friday 250mg sus.

what can be takin for gyno prevention?
 
Cheers for the help so far people, i think i have a solid cycle now just need help on pct and gyno prevention!
how long will it take before i notice increases in strength and my soar knees getting better?
 
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pov said:
Cheers for the help so far people, i think i have a solid cycle now just need help on pct and gym prevention! eurobolic site sucks!
how long will it take before i notice increases in strength and my soar knees getting better?
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I know you're new so I won't bash you too bad.

You need to read the rules BEFORE YOU POST. Please edit your post about a certain source. We DON'T talk about that here.

Thank you.
 
First at 21 = too young,,, but you are going to do it anyhow no matter what anybody tells you,, so i would drop the deca completly and run a low dose of just test for 12 week,, and by low i mean under 500mg a week.. shoot every 5-6 days then you will need to have your pct all lined up, and perhaps some adex or aromisin...
did you happen to have your blood worked checked b4 you started? curious as to what your natty test levels were...
 
imo you should stop all gear together for a while untill you know a little more, this site has plenty of info, be sure to study pcts and AIs
 
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