help on anadrol/hemogenin cycle

[bigfatty]

Hello everybody!

Well this will be my second time on Oxymetholone/Oxandrolone. The first cycle I did I was about 20 years old, young dumb and full of cum, and I stacked it with duratest only. Needless to say I got bloated like a cow, strong like a mofo, thankfully no bitch tits (not more than I already had) and no side effects, but when the cycle was over, it was OVER!

Anyhow now I'm 28, I've been training ever since and I'm at or better than I had been all natural. But I would like to try this again and keep some of what I had. I have been researching and have put togther a cycle of information I have gathered through this board and elsewhere. Here it is:

week 1 2=100mg ed hemogenin/oxymetholone


week 2 3=150mg ed hem


week 3 3=150mg ed hem
3cc primo


week 4 2.5=125 ed hem
3cc primo
20mg ed nolvadex


week 5 2=100 ed hem
3cc primo
20mg ed nolvadex


week 6 1=50 mg ed hem
4cc primo
2000iu HCG 5days between 3 shots.
20mg ed nolvadex


week 7 3cc primo
20mg ed nolvadex


week 8 2cc primo
20mg ed nolvadex
50mg eod clomid

week 9 50 mg eod clomid




I know this amount of oxymetholone is rather high (150mgs) but I had done it before with not many probs other than losing size and strength at the end. I'm using primo as a transition from hemogenin as it doesn't effect test production and will keep some size and stregnth, also I heard whatever you gain with primo you keep. The hcg is to promote test production after the heavy hemo cycle and nolvadex for anti-estro effect. clomid therapy to be safe. I welcome any feedback on this as I couldn't find the info on this and alot of you guys are more experienced on this. Thanks!

 

[genarr3]

"I know this amount of oxymetholone is rather high (150mgs) but I had done it before with not many probs" - You had blood tests taken?

"nolvadex for anti-estro effect" - It won't help. Anadrol converts to progesterone, Nolvadex will help with compounds that convert to estrogen.

"50mg eod clomid, week 9 50 mg eod clomid" - You need to do a whole lot more Clomid then this. Clomid will get your natural test production started much faster then it would on it's own. So this therapy is very important for gains keeping.
300mgs day 1 ...
100mgs everyday for the next ten days ...
50mgs everday for the final ten days.

You probably still will loose most of the gains you get on this cycle. Anadrol makes you hold alot of water, water isn't muscle, so when you stop the Anadrol the water goes away and so do your gains on the scale.

BTW - Anadrol is a not a good drug to build your cycle around. Get some test or Deca, you'd keep far more of your gains.

 

[Hugh Gellatts]

your cycle is short enough that HCG is not necessary, and will only increase risk of gyno.

I would immediatly follow the anadrol course with 4 weeks of test prop (with anti-estros) while staying on the primo. this will prevent rapid deflation and help you keep gains.

 

[bigfatty]

Thanks for the help guys,

The reason I am using hemo is because it gives alot of strength and because I have it already . But do you think I should lower the dosage (100mgs or so?) I was hoping to use it with primo to retain some gains but I guess I should add some test. Would testviron do this as good as test-prop, or maybe sustanon? Also, should I just use proviron instead of nolvadex or is it only for proestrogene? In other words what could I use to replace nolvadex if it won't be effective with hemo. I was under the impression I should not be on hemo for more than 6 weeks (liver) and I was planning on taking simalyrin for that reason also. Sorry for the dragging msg, but all your expertise is really appreciated!! thanks bud

 

[bigfatty]

Oh, almost forgot. If I were to use Liquidex, would it have some effect on this cycle, or should I leave it for last. I know it has a diuretic effect like nolvadex, but I heard it also had a estrogen (not sure which one) effect as well. thanks!