help on 2nd cycle

[BURBS]

This is my first post, so let me start off with the ass kissing and get that out of the way. I've checked out alot of sites and this is by far the BEST site that I have seen. The mods are extremely knowledgable and are always willing to help. Let me say in advance, thanks for any advise you can give me about this cycle.

I'm 5'-10" , 175lbs , 8%bf
I've been lifting regularly for about 4 yrs, but just starting getting serious over the past year. (added 20lbs this year)

This will be my 2nd cycle
(1st was about a year ago, very light. - deca / test)

weeks 1-8: 250 sus250
weeks 1-5: 30mg Dbol ed
weeks 6-10: 25mg winny ed (oral)
weeks 8-10: 80mg fin eod (transdermally-injecting is too

I have nolv, clomid, and hcg that I will also be taking.

I am looking to add about 25lbs and be able to retain most of it.
What do you think?

 

[Fat Bastard]

Glad to see that not everybody has not fallen into the "at least a gram a week" rut. When quality gear is used mega doses are not usually needed under most circumstances. As most people will tell you, twenty-five permanent pounds may be a little optomistic with this amount of gear, but not impossible.

If 25 lbs. is your goal, you might want to try inj. the sust. every 4 days, bumping the winny to 50mg, and if it's not a prob. you will probably see better results inj. the fina. Guys correct me if I'm wrong.
That being said, you would prolly see some quality gains if you run it like you said, but maybe not 25 lbs.

 

[1Banshee]

First, Welcome bro!!!!!
As for your cycle the time lengths look good, I would adjust dosages as follows:

Sustanon - 1cc (250mg) every fifth day. This would average to 375mgs per week.
D-Bol - Dosage looks good.
Winny - 40mg pd minimum.

Personally I would inject the Fina. Unfortunately your reasoning for not injecting got cut off in your post..?

Hold the nolva in case you need it. Use the HCG near the end of the cycle to bring the boys size up. Due to the fast acting AS you are using at the end of the cycle, you will be able to start the Clomid within a week of stopping the Win and Fina.

As far as your goal, you may be able to attain it if your diet, training and sleep are on. For me on this type of cycle I usually expect around 15lbs of good solid mass. Although I could go higher but then so would the fat...

 

[gilly6993]

25 quality pounds is pushing it with this cycle.....I would definately inject the Fina and bump the winny to 50 ED....I never tell myself "I'm going to gain such and such pounds.....if you eat right and train hard you'll put on the pounds....however much it is has to do with many variables, genetics being one of them......

 

[BURBS]

Thanks for the advise.
I'm not injecting the fin because it's too complicated to convert. I've read up on how to do it, but I don't want to screw it up and end up with an absess.
I'm using plo jel so I won't have the smell that dmso gives you and hopefully no rash (I'll have to wait and see for sure). From what I've heard, it is still about 80% effective this way.

I will definately bump up the winny and sus.
I am also going to use clen at the end of my cycle to help take off some of the extra fat that I'm going to put on. (2 days on, 2 days off) for 2 weeks. Any suggestions on that.

Thanks again!

 

[gilly6993]

Fina conversion is a joke....if you follow the directions you won't get an abscess.....