Help! Need to lose MAJOR BF

[El Californio]

I am 5'10, 202lbs and around 32% BF. I have been slacking on my diet so now my waist size is 36. I need to lose this and have come up with the following cycle/diet. I would appreciate any advice please. I desperately want to lose this fat. I've done one cycle of 500mg test/wk about a year ago.

Cycle:

wks 1-16: 300mgEQ/wk
wks 1,2,5,6: 140mcg clen/day
wks 3,4,7-12: ECA and NYC
wks 1-16: 10mg nolva/day
wks 1-8: 12.5mcg T3/day
wks 1-12: 2g ALA/day

Diet:

day 1: 3500 cals
day 2: 2900 cals
day 3: 3300 cals
day 4: 2500 cals
day 5: 3300 cals
day 6: 2000 cals
day 7: 2500 cals
day 8: 1900 cals
day 9: repeat

workout:

day 1: 30min run, arms
day 2: 45min speedwalk, back, abs
day 3: 30min run, chest
day 4: 30min run, shoulders, abs
day 5: 45min speedwalk, legs, calves
day 6-7: rest

I havent broken down the macros for the diet yet as I want to get a feedback from someone. I plan on eating carbs post cycle and no more than 6 hours after my workout. On the low calorie days, I'll eat carbs post workout and no more than 3-4 hours after my workout. On the non training days I wont eat more than 30-40g of carbs. Please tweak my diet, workout and cycle as necessary. Karma to all the respond

 

[guards]

I think you should concentrate on your diet and training before considering another cycle. 32% BF is very high for you to be stressing yourself anymore than you have to.

 

[bumpo]

try cardio and diet first

Bumpo

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[SofaGeorge]

That's a lot of calories for someone trying to lose b/f.

 

[02gixxersix]

I would try to do it without the gear first. you need to drop some bodyfat before you hop on a cycle.

 

[nikolai_bolkov]

Yeah, do it without the gear (EQ) for the SOLE reason that it's not going to do much for you, and it's a waste of money.

Save it for when you get down to 15% to take you even further.

Stick to the clen\ECA\nolva\T3\ALA first.

It's not going to do you any harm in taking the EQ, it's just that it won't be put to good use.

 

[brotheriron]

three magic letters, d n p
lol

 

[CharlesAtlast]

Do cardio, too many newbe's that rely solely on AS to form their physique today! If you do 45 minutes of serious cardio 4 times a week then no probs, bf stays off, or you could be a lazy lump o' shit and use DNP or some other drug and lose the fat only for it to come back a month or two later. IMHO the only reason to use t3 or dnp is if you are competing, if you are simply a disco bodybuilder then sorry for you!

 

[georgie24]

ala,diet, weight training will GIVE YOU THE RESULTS you want. i would use the eq when you start to look like jared from subway, at that point you will bulk up and tighten up

 

[kenleo]

dnp,dnp,dnp!!!!!!!!!

 

[guards]

dnp,dnp,dnp!!!!!!!!!

Why in the hell would you advocate this drug?????? He's in NO shape to be using that shit!


Come on guys, get a fucking clue!!!

 

[dzuljas]

32%!!! oh jesus LOL

 

[brotheriron]

DNP DNP DNP!
COme on guys stop being so ignorant and narrow minded.
People have this vision of DNP being the devils son. Sorry guys but its a fat loss drug, just like ECA and T3.
Bodybuilding discos? whats that all about?
hypocrits
Bro

 

[guards]

DNP DNP DNP!
COme on guys stop being so ignorant and narrow minded.
People have this vision of DNP being the devils son. Sorry guys but its a fat loss drug, just like ECA and T3.
Bodybuilding discos? whats that all about?
hypocrits
Bro

Are you for real? DNP is NOTHING like ECA or T3, they aren't even CLOSE to being able to be compared. DNP is EXTREMELY dangerous and potentially LETHAL......be pretty hard to kill yourself on ECA.

Ignorant and narrow minded? Sir, i beg you to rethink that statement.

 

[PsychoSkitz]

dnp,dnp,dnp!!!!!!!!!

This is the 2nd post of yours today that says "dnp, dnp, dnp" -- are you trying to fucking kill the guy?

He's extremely overweight and probably has never followed a strict diet/cardio routine. DNP isn't a magic answer nor is it safe.

 

[Gretak9]

First of all, how did you measure your bf? Just asking b/c I got one of those bodyfat electronic scales for christmas and it says that I am 27% bf right now. I had my bf done w/ calipers 4 days ago and it came out 16-20% (18 +/- 2%). Now I'm still considered a fatass compared to many on this board but I've had people guess I was 10-12% by looking. ALso it's possible to have a larger % of inter-muscle fat rather than the fat under your skin being high. That being said, your goals are your goals and do what you can to achieve them. From my point of view your plan looks pretty good. 16 weeks is a long cycle so you may want to throw hcg in at weeks 6 and again at wk 12. Good luck and remember to rely on the mirror, not a scale or abstract bf%.

 

[naturally anabolic]

anyone who has mentioned dnp in this post as a suggestion should be slapped upside the head with a clue stick.

 

[El Californio]

Thaks for the replies all. I've posted this on three other boards so you might have read it before. Most recommended that I lose the fat before hitting the EQ and a few said go ahead with what I have outlined. I think I am going to try low carbs for four weeks and make up my mind depending on the results. The reason why the kcals are so high is because the diet is a ziz zag type diet which supposedly was made to gain LBM while losing BFM for mr. and mrs. couch-potato. The idea behind it is that you eat 2calories per pound of LBM above your maintenance level for 4-5 days and to eat 2calories per pound of LBM below your maintenance level for the remainder of the 2-3 days. That sounds worth a try dont you think? This is the formula that they used to figuer out your maintenance:

1xbodyweight (in kg) x 24 = XYZ

XYZ x BF% = ZYX

ZYX x average daily activities = maintenance level

They gave you figures for the BF% and the average daily activities.

Opinons on this type of diet?

 

[genarr3]

I think you should forget about the drugs for now and learn proper diet and training habits.

 

[CharlesAtlast]

A disco bodybuilder is someone that works out strictly for looks, the type of guy that wants to stay shredded(skinny) all year round and does not want mass. Also they look for quick fix miracle drugs to take all the work out of the art of body sculpting!

 

[powerforward]

i would look to one of mr.x's diet plans. a ckd would be great for taking off a ton of fat. do a search on the diet section of elite for one of his plans. skip the eq, eca or nyc would be fine, and since i've never done t3 i really can't comment. but 6-8 weeks of a ckd diet with somewhere around 10-12x bw caloric intake, with cardio and lifting would yeild great results. good luck.

 

[lonewulf]

I suggest going slowly, clean your diet up first, and dont worry about cals, if anything keep them high. Work out hard, add a little cardio, 20 min. three times a week or so to get acclimated to the exertion. After a couple of weeks drop cals slightly add more cardio, and maybe do it in the morning on an empty stomach. After 2 weeks of this start taking stimulants and up the cardio some more. Finally when all else fails cut the carbs, you may not even have to do this, with the addition of R-ala. I recommend 2 weeks nyc then 2 weeks clen, it worked wonders for me.-WULF

 

[AustinTX]

... I think I am going to try low carbs for four weeks and make up my mind depending on the results...

You need to diet for at least 4 months and lose at least 30 lbs before doing anything else. At your BF, I don't see any reason to ever eat more calories than you need for your BMR. I also wouldn't do ECA/CLEN, etc. You can't rely on those forever, and if you don't change your habbits now, it won't work in the long run. It will also take longer to lose the weight than you should be on those combos.

 

[georgie24]

what are you gonna do?

 

[HULKSTER]

Yeah, bro, you should diet before you even think of putting any more stress on your bodily organs (especially your HEART) before juicing. Christ, could you imagine the stress on your heart and liver with 32% BF and using like 40mg of Dbol ed?