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nefertiti

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OK, EFers, here's a chance to be of some use to me.

Without giving too many details, my mother has had a very hard year, physically and emotionally. She has recently gone on LTD and has gained a good deal of weight as a direct result of the million or so medications she is currently having to take.

I suggested to my dad that when they move in July, they should get a dog. They were thinking of getting a cat. Now, while I love cats too, I really think what my mom needs now is a dog. She'll be home alone a lot and I like to think of some big bear of a pup being there licking her face, demanding her attention, wanting to play, needing care and walkings, so on and so forth.

My dad's main concern is that the new house won't have a fenced in yard. It will have PLENTY of yard space, but no fence. He's unsure about having a big dog (because it definitely needs to be a larger breed if they get one) and not having a yard he can just turn him loose in. The house is relatively large. Old, about 4000 square feet. I told him as long as the dog gets some supervised outdoor play time, it should be fine, but I've never owned a dog and I don't know what's fair and what isn't.

So my question is, for the dog lovers out there, are there any breeds of bigger dogs that do better indoors than others, save walkings and being taken for play time once a week or so? Preferably also a breed known for having a temperment that would be compatible with my mom's situation. I really know nothing about this and I want to be able to have some knowledge for when I go home in a month so I can push the issue. Thanks in advance.
 
nefertiti said:
OK, EFers, here's a chance to be of some use to me.

Without giving too many details, my mother has had a very hard year, physically and emotionally. She has recently gone on LTD and has gained a good deal of weight as a direct result of the million or so medications she is currently having to take.

I suggested to my dad that when they move in July, they should get a dog. They were thinking of getting a cat. Now, while I love cats too, I really think what my mom needs now is a dog. She'll be home alone a lot and I like to think of some big bear of a pup being there licking her face, demanding her attention, wanting to play, needing care and walkings, so on and so forth.

My dad's main concern is that the new house won't have a fenced in yard. It will have PLENTY of yard space, but no fence. He's unsure about having a big dog (because it definitely needs to be a larger breed if they get one) and not having a yard he can just turn him loose in. The house is relatively large. Old, about 4000 square feet. I told him as long as the dog gets some supervised outdoor play time, it should be fine, but I've never owned a dog and I don't know what's fair and what isn't.

So my question is, for the dog lovers out there, are there any breeds of bigger dogs that do better indoors than others, save walkings and being taken for play time once a week or so? Preferably also a breed known for having a temperment that would be compatible with my mom's situation. I really know nothing about this and I want to be able to have some knowledge for when I go home in a month so I can push the issue. Thanks in advance.
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Standard full size poodle. They are the most intelligent breed (believe it or not), are hypoallergenic, not overly hyper, but not overly lazy either.
 
Have her and someone go to a local shelter and pick up a smaller type mixed breed puppy.

They will be able to tell you generally how big or not it will grow.

Cheaper, Mutts make great dogs, Do good stuff
 
Labs are awesome dogs to have!!!
Bad thing about a big dog....untill they are housebroken you have to pick up dinosaur size turds and big puddles of pee...
:worried:
 
Yorkie.

I would not go any bigger with no fence. ITs not nice to the dog to stay inside. :(

Yorkie's prefer to be with their master at all times though. They do not like to be left alone AT ALL. They will let you know when you get back that they are to be taken everywhere. :)

They are so cute. :)
 
I wouldn't get a puppy again for anything in the world. They eat everything, piss all over the place, and need constant attention. We are going to have to replace our couch and the carpet because of ours. Now that he is 9 months he has become a much better dog. He is a part lab, part golden retriever. Maybe a young dog in a lower energy category. My dog is never tired for long, even after long walks.
 
Doberman. I'll never get another breed. Maybe I'll get a mini bull terrier, but dobies are just great for me. They're very gentle too. Nothing like on tv.
 
cindylou said:
Yorkie.

I would not go any bigger with no fence. ITs not nice to the dog to stay inside. :(

Yorkie's prefer to be with their master at all times though. They do not like to be left alone AT ALL. They will let you know when you get back that they are to be taken everywhere. :)

They are so cute. :)
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Yep, I have one and he never leaves my side. They are very affectionate to their masters.
 
oh and I've had labs before and they spent most of the time indoors and are very smart and can be trained very easily. Loveable and always good with kids as well if that may be a concern with grandbabies
 
We have 3 chihuahuas, one each of the 3 types available.
Short Smooth hair, Longhair and Wire haired

Awesome alertness, very loyal, great personalities, small, smart, easy to train and housebreak, they don't eat a lot, nobody is going to get near the house without her knowing about it, they will bark usually only when anyone comes to the door.

And get that paris hilton, legally blonde stereotype out of your head, as those are just one type of small toy versions of the dog..
 
Why are you wanting a big breed ?

But if big is what you want, most need some level of exersise and space occasionally. Our 3 dogs got their exercise running from room to room.
 
heatherrae said:
Yep, I have one and he never leaves my side. They are very affectionate to their masters.
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But if she ever has a boyfriend and he has to walk the dog he might as well be wearing a tutu.
 
heatherrae said:
My dog's penis is huge compared to his body size.




It really is.



:worried:
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A three inch killer is still a three inch killer regardless of how you spin it. Just like small guys want to judge strength pound for pound. :)
 
dannomight said:
basenji. they don't bark but they yodle. plus they're short haired so shedding isn't as bad. My uncle had one once.
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OMG those are so CUTE! I had a neighbor who had one and I would get him all excited just to hear it yodel. I love those dogs. lThey are easily litter trained too.
 
I was gonna say a lab ; but there is no fence.

I just think its wrong to keep a large dog inside all the time. Its not nice. :( They like to run and play ; and I see dogs in kennels all day it makes me sad. :( :( :( :( I have both kinds of dogs ; and my fenced in yard was a decent size but I still felt like it was not fair ; not enough room for him to roam free. Poor guy. :(

Yorkies and other small dogs thrive indoors and are perfectly ok when just going on walks with their master. :)
 
heatherrae said:
OMG those are so CUTE! I had a neighbor who had one and I would get him all excited just to hear it yodel. I love those dogs. lThey are easily litter trained too.
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what the hell? I've never heard of one of those? Expensive?
 
cindylou said:
what the hell? I've never heard of one of those? Expensive?
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They are African in origin I believe. I've never bought one. I don't know how much they cost, but they are so CUTE. Their tails curl up onto their backs like little piglets.
 
dannomight said:
basenji. they don't bark but they yodle. plus they're short haired so shedding isn't as bad. My uncle had one once.
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^^^Best dogs ever!



But if you want a really big dog, great danes are sweet and handle themselves well indoors.
 
One of these:

SamUgliestDogLulu.jpg
 
ksharp01 said:
Labs are awesome dogs to have!!!
Bad thing about a big dog....untill they are housebroken you have to pick up dinosaur size turds and big puddles of pee...
:worried:
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i love labs, but they are very active and often destructive.

i have a tiny dog that i LOVE. i mean, of course i love him, but he's such a fun dog to own- very easy and sweet and smart - a maltese. he just wants to sit on your lap and be held, very smart and doesn't require much space. he needs to be taken to a groomer every so often though.
 
Sigh...well my mom and dad has a bias against smaller dogs...so there's virtually no chance I can convince them to get a dog if it's going to come to that.
 
Golden Retriever...

reasons you should get one for your lovely parents..

1: they are the cutest fucking puppies ever.
2: they are extremely intelligent as far as dogs go, top 3 I'm pretty sure.
3: to smart to run away, dogs always come back to the food.
4: very friendly.. awesome dog..
5: playful.. but not like to much in your face oh god play with me.. god play with me type of playful..
6: pretty much the most awesome dog ever..
7: your parents would love it!

that would be my first choice for that kind of scenario..
 
FriendlyCanadian said:
Golden Retriever...

reasons you should get one for your lovely parents..

1: they are the cutest fucking puppies ever.
2: they are extremely intelligent as far as dogs go, top 3 I'm pretty sure.
3: to smart to run away, dogs always come back to the food.
4: very friendly.. awesome dog..
5: playful.. but not like to much in your face oh god play with me.. god play with me type of playful..
6: pretty much the most awesome dog ever..
7: your parents would love it!

that would be my first choice for that kind of scenario..
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Great dogs but Shepherds are better.
 
labs and golden retrievers are little bundles of energy. They may be too much excitement for an older couple.
 
FriendlyCanadian said:
ya german shepards are great dogs..

both very intelligent..

buuuut..

Golden Retreivers are definately cuter puppies, hehe. :evil: :evil:
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Fuck that, my Nitchske is the shit....even though he smells like ass right now because he was rollin in dead fish earlier...fugger! I'm giving him a double bath for pulling that shit;He's so proud of himself.
 
heatherrae said:
labs and golden retrievers are little bundles of energy. They may be too much excitement for an older couple.
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they are actually pretty calm unless you start playing with them.. retrievers at least...

my grandparents (OLDER PEOPLE) had a golden retriever for a very long time, he'd get excited when it was time to play, walk.. whatever.. but he'd relax and mellow when it was time.. to.. relax and mellow..

so I don't know where you're getting this from. =)
 
Vizsla

The Hungarian Vizsla, pronounced VEEZH-la (zh as in vision), is a dog breed originating in Hungary. Vizslas are known as excellent hunting dogs, and also have a level personality making them suited for families. The Hungarian Wirehaired Vizsla was created by cross-breeding the Hungarian Shorthaired Vizsla with the German Wirehaired Pointer during the 1930s.

The Vizsla, as described in the AKC standard, is a medium-sized short-coated hunting dog of distinguished appearance and bearing. Robust but rather lightly built; the coat is an attractive golden rust color.The coat could also be described as a copper/brown color. They are lean dogs, and have defined muscles, and a coat a lot like a weimaraner, a silver colored dog.

Vizslas are lively, gentle-mannered, loyal, caring and highly affectionate. They quickly form close bonds with their owners, including children. Often they are referred to as "velcro" dogs because of their loyalty and affection. They are quiet dogs, only barking if necessary or provoked. Vizslas are one of only seven breeds recognised as having all three HPR (Hunt, Point, Retreive) skills.
 
Temperament
Typically, Goldens are fairly unruly as puppies. However, once they reach maturity, Goldens remain active and fun-loving while developing an exceptionally patient demeanor, as befits a dog bred to sit quietly for hours in a hunting blind. Other characteristics related to their hunting heritage are a size suited for scrambling in and out of boats and an inordinate love for cool water. Some poorly bred and inadequately socialized Goldens may have aggressive tendencies, but they are rare. In The Book of Lists, the Golden Retriever is at the top of a list of nine breeds of dogs that are least likely to bite.


Most Goldens enjoy active entertainment, such as dog agility.They are noted for their affection for people, and their tolerance of children. Because of their gentle temperament they are great therapy dogs to use in hospitals or retirement homes. Most Goldens require lots of companionship to be happy. Due to their intelligence, they do well in obedience trials and make excellent assistance dogs. While they might not do quite as well in field trials as Labrador Retrievers, they are excellent hunters known for outstanding scenting ability. However, many Golden Retrievers will not express their desire to "fetch" until adulthood.

As the name suggests, the Golden Retriever loves to retrieve. Retrieving a thrown stick, tennis ball, or flying disc can keep a Golden occupied and entertained for hours, particularly if there is also water involved.


straight from wiki..

though they are uppity puppies but that passes pretty quickly. =)

I don't think they would use them in retirement homes.. (again for old people)
if they were to much to handle.. just saying. =)
 
right. but my golden is still a puppy and is quite a handful. He has gotten a lot better, but we still need new carpet and furniture because of his mouth. He is a sneaker too. Many a stuffed animal were captured, eyes torn out, and appendages ripped off before the guts (stuffing) were strewn around the house.
 
Jimsbbc said:
right. but my golden is still a puppy and is quite a handful. He has gotten a lot better, but we still need new carpet and furniture because of his mouth. He is a sneaker too. Many a stuffed animal were captured, eyes torn out, and appendages ripped off before the guts (stuffing) were strewn around the house.
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might be possible to be one who is young but not a puppy, post pics of your fugging puppy!
 
heatherrae said:
Standard full size poodle. They are the most intelligent breed (believe it or not), are hypoallergenic, not overly hyper, but not overly lazy either.
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and they're actually fantastic guard dogs. . .
 
All are great dogs, but you guys have got to think in terms of overall temperment, exercise need, what the puppy is like, the living situation AND general maintenance.

1. Shepards are great, but if you don't get a good one (good breeder) you can run into a shitload of health issues. They also REALLY require a decent amount of regular exercise and their coats MUST be maintained.

2. Labs, exercise again. They are VERY mouthy dogs (destructive). You REALLY gotta watch their food they have a propensity to gaining weight, particularly if you don't give them a lot of regular exercise.

3. Beagles, high energy/noisy.

4. St. Bernard, eats and shits like an elephant, coat maintenance, health issues if you don't get a good one and good ones are VERY hard to come by in USA.

5. Boxers, good ones are great, badly bred ones are a total headache, high energy dogs. They need exercise, live for it, really.

Actually, a LOT of the sporting breeds are going to need a LOT of exercise and play time (with the exception of the Standard Poodle, good suggestion HR), herding breeds are next in terms of needing exercise.

Tell ya what, Nef., try this:

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/search.htm

It's a search engine, you put in what details you're looking for in the dog (grooming, exercise, etc.) it spits out suggestions, you click on the links and look at the doggies :qt:
 
didn't read the entire thread so not sure if this was suggested.
This is simple....go to ANY animal shelter and adopt. Pure or Mutt, they all need love and are all lovable!
 
Being totally honest - I'd go to a shelter with your mom (if that is possible) and let her pick a dog out. Usually people can find one and just connect with the dog. It's amazing how it works. I know a couple of family friends who were sick and in a similiar situation and they did this and now they are unseparatable... the dog and them.

Definitely say visit an animal shelter. You won't leave empty handed. :)
 
cindylou said:
Yorkie.

I would not go any bigger with no fence. ITs not nice to the dog to stay inside. :(

Yorkie's prefer to be with their master at all times though. They do not like to be left alone AT ALL. They will let you know when you get back that they are to be taken everywhere. :)

They are so cute. :)
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They look like rats to me and aren't very intelligent. hehe. But that's just my experience with them. Not to mention I almost stepped on one and that was not good. lol.
 
So basically...we've got a mention for just about every breed of large dog. Thanks guys, lots of help narrowing it down. ;)

(kidding, kidding)

We'd almost definitely get a shelter pup, all of our animals have been rescues.

Has anyone ever done that electric fence thing? Is that humane? (please don't jump all over me if it isn't, I really don't know this stuff!)
 
I like this one http://puppydogweb.com/caninebreeds/akbash.htm. Stop being a pussy, do you want a man's man dog or a freaking dog that a cat can beat up? Aren't they all snuggly http://www.hund.ch/jpg/akbash.jpg ?

http://www.salvandistud.com/dogs.htm

Our sheep, cattle and ponies are all looked after by Akbash Stock Guarding Dogs. Wonderful temperaments, but deadly on a wide variety of predators. We cannot recommend these animals enough if you are having any problems with any kind of livestock predation. To learn more e-mail Nancy Rix-Dun at [email protected].
 
heatherrae said:
Standard full size poodle. They are the most intelligent breed (believe it or not), are hypoallergenic, not overly hyper, but not overly lazy either.
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Leave it to a damn Liberal to pick a damn poodle, or French anything for that matter...
 
dannomight said:
I wouldn't. She don't have blue eyes. But I watch a lot of animal planet and discovery channel.
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Uhm - not all wolves have blue eyes. I think you are thinking about the arctic dogs like huskies and so forth.. when she's wet, she looks much more wolf like.

http://fohn.net/wolf-pictures-facts/gray-wolf-gaze.jpg
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/SLV/JP0701~Timber-Wolf-Posters.jpg
http://www.wildernesscommittee.org/campaigns/species/forest/wolf/images/timber_wolf.jpg

Many kinds of wolves.
 
go to the pound, you'll see lab/ somethings, shepard/somethings, find one who seems calm and friendly....done.
 
txbondsman said:
Leave it to a damn Liberal to pick a damn poodle, or French anything for that matter...
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Leave it to the conservative to talk crap about poodles when he probably has never been around a full size poodle...lol.
 
I hate dogs that shed.. I cant stand going to work in nice black pants with hair all over them
 
nefertiti said:
So basically...we've got a mention for just about every breed of large dog. Thanks guys, lots of help narrowing it down. ;)

(kidding, kidding)

We'd almost definitely get a shelter pup, all of our animals have been rescues.

Has anyone ever done that electric fence thing? Is that humane? (please don't jump all over me if it isn't, I really don't know this stuff!)
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Like I said:

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/search.htm

It's a search engine, you put in what details you're looking for in the dog (grooming, exercise, etc.) it spits out suggestions, you click on the links and look at the doggies

Electric fence is very humane if used properly.
 
the_clockwork said:
I hate dogs that shed.. I cant stand going to work in nice black pants with hair all over them
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My dogs shed a lot but I never have it all over my clothes. :) Everything is very clean here. You'd never know there were dogs. Not to mention we brush them often which helps.
 
javaguru said:
Nefertitties, get a shepherd, trust me! :)
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I strongly agree!

Very loyal, smart, protective and loving dogs. I owned 3 of them and I must say they were the most amazing dogs.

Nefert... they can always do invisible fence... the only negative thing about that is other strays can get in. But its still an option.

I would go with a shepherd or a blue heeler... I've owned both and can't say enough good about them. You can't go wrong with either.
 
Frisky said:
I strongly agree!

Very loyal, smart, protective and loving dogs. I owned 3 of them and I must say they were the most amazing dogs.

Nefert... they can always do invisible fence... the only negative thing about that is other strays can get in. But its still an option.

I would go with a shepherd or a blue heeler... I've owned both and can't say enough good about them. You can't go wrong with either.
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I agree as well (shepherd)! I have never had a problem with them and they are so intelligent that most of the time they have already figured out what you want them to do, ahead of time! My favorite breed. :) I swear mine understand English - they shock me at times!
 
OK, so the invisible fence isn't mean, then? Because they have a HUGE amount of yard space, but no fence. This would pretty much solve any qualms they'd have.

My mom's last dog was a german sheppard...she loved that thing to death, I bet she'd love another.
 
nefertiti said:
OK, so the invisible fence isn't mean, then? Because they have a HUGE amount of yard space, but no fence. This would pretty much solve any qualms they'd have.

My mom's last dog was a german sheppard...she loved that thing to death, I bet she'd love another.
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I've never had experience with the invisible fence but the good thing about that and then owning an intelligent dog is that they quickly grasp the concept that they are not allowed past a certain distance. :)
 
nefertiti said:
OK, so the invisible fence isn't mean, then? Because they have a HUGE amount of yard space, but no fence. This would pretty much solve any qualms they'd have.

My mom's last dog was a german sheppard...she loved that thing to death, I bet she'd love another.
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its not mean at all... it is a shock technique used with a boundry line that at first is gradual with flags etc... and the closer they get to the boundry the stronger the shock, of course some dogs are stubborn and they won't give up as easy as others so you can adjust the strength... I'd classify it as from yellow to orange to red... yellow being a warning, red being the strongest.

It does not work with all dogs however, depends on the dogs tempermant. I had a dog that it did not ever work on... she was so driven, strong and smart that she would actually run straight thur it knowing it would only shock her for a second. She could also open her kennel by nudging her nose... biting the lock... But she was very protective of my kids... loved her to death. We went thru K-9 training with her, (cop dog training) loving, loyal, friendly, but really protective... therefore she would not even hesitate to be shocked if someone were close to our property... she would run them off.

I owned two other that were show dogs. Both had ROM status, top breeds and smart as a whip but gentle as can be, the pedigree on both of them were outstanding... also the temperment. Beautiful dogs, but they hated each other. Both males wanted my female which caused lots of turmoil (go imagine :rolleyes: )
 
heatherrae said:
Leave it to the conservative to talk crap about poodles when he probably has never been around a full size poodle...lol.
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leave it to a damn Lib who calls a standard poodle a "full size" poodle....LMAO
 
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