Help critique by buddys cycle

[BeefcakeK]

I have a buudy who's 25 and about to do his first cycle. He previously did a D-bol only cycle which was kind of pointless at a fairly low dosage. He actually didnt even use an estrogen blocker either which was even more stupid. But since then he has learned more and has the following cycle set up. I just want to help him out and make sure hes doing it the best possible because i may do a cycle very similar in the future. Before I give you the cycle I will give you his stats: 25 y.o. 5'10'' 180 pounds, pretty good shape but not great shape - I would say his bodyfat is fairly low though.

Precycle - Clenbuterol 2 different 2 week cycles to lose some unnessessary fat.

Weeks 1-2 - 25mg Dbol
Weeks 2-4 - 50mg Dbol
Weeks 1-12 - 400mg test Enth.
Weeks 1-12 - 400mg Winstrol
Weeks 1-12 - 300mg Deca
Weeks 12-14/16-18 - 2 Clen cycles again

*Weeks 1-5 - Cranberry Extract, Milk Thristle, LiquiDEX
*PCT - Clomid and Nolva

Any advice is greatly appreciated

FK

 

[surferstar]

I have a buudy who's 25 and about to do his first cycle. He previously did a D-bol only cycle which was kind of pointless at a fairly low dosage. He actually didnt even use an estrogen blocker either which was even more stupid. But since then he has learned more and has the following cycle set up. I just want to help him out and make sure hes doing it the best possible because i may do a cycle very similar in the future. Before I give you the cycle I will give you his stats: 25 y.o. 5'10'' 180 pounds, pretty good shape but not great shape - I would say his bodyfat is fairly low though.

Precycle - Clenbuterol 2 different 2 week cycles to lose some unnessessary fat.

Weeks 1-2 - 25mg Dbol
Weeks 2-4 - 50mg Dbol
Weeks 1-12 - 400mg test Enth.
Weeks 1-12 - 400mg Winstrol
Weeks 1-12 - 300mg Deca
Weeks 12-14/16-18 - 2 Clen cycles again

*Weeks 1-5 - Cranberry Extract, Milk Thristle, LiquiDEX
*PCT - Clomid and Nolva

Any advice is greatly appreciated

FK

Id say do not do that. All I see is disaster for your friend in that cycle.
ifs he ran a low dose dbol cycle then its obvious he obviously doesn't have much experience with AAS. I would say
1-12 Test Enthanate 500mg/wk
1-4 dbol 35mg

wk 1-12 0.5mg Arimidex
wk 1-4 tylers liver detox/cranberry extract
PCT Nolva and clomid

But i would suggest him not taking anything at all until he has researched this all on his own and he has had a strict workout ethic and extremely high calorie diet 5,000+. But if he doesn't know all this on his own, then he has a long way to go before thinking of doing a cycle.
As i believe MR.X says "KISS"

 

[BeefcakeK]

So u suggest dropping the DECA too? I told him he should so he would no how he reacted to the test. Oh and the Dbols are 25ml tablets soooo 35ml not really possible but yeah

 

[BeefcakeK]

To help u better understand, this guys no slouch and has good workout ethic

 

[Outtlaw]

To help u better understand, this guys no slouch and has good workout ethic

Doesnt matter what his workout ethic is. Dbol/deca/test/winny is unnecessary overkill for a 1st cycle.

 

[BeefcakeK]

Radar .... Mr. X... ??

 

[RADAR]

I agree! One compound only until you see how you respond to it , i would go with test! 500mgs a week-Tell your buddy to get his ass in here and do his own research so if he gets sides from something its not your fault!
Does he know what gyno is, what about PCT, spot injections, aspirating...etc?


RADAR

 

[BeefcakeK]

Im with u guys on this one, thanks for the help

 

[02gixxersix2]

Test only at 500 mg/wk. He's gonna be running over 100mg of 17aa orals at time and there is no reason for it. Also whoever told him that he needed 12 weeks of winny at over 50mg a day is lost. After that tapering the dbol is pointless and why run the milk thistle and cranberry extract for only 5 weeks makes no sense. Tell him first of all to do more research for himself instead of having you ask questions, and second of all if he has to do something try one compound at a time with the proper ancillaries and PCT ready just in case.

 

[BeefcakeK]

Im with ya