Helios worked great for me. I wouldn't recomend using it unless you are already very lean. Very strong stuff. I used it around my waist it seemed to help with spot reduction but hard to say for sure. It definitely made me sweet my ass off. It made Clenbuterol feel very weak. Make sure you know how to dose. Start off east and progress from there. Lots of cramping too. Just be ready to handle that.