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EX1855

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Hey need a little help. I have 2 bottles of HCG (at least thats what it says on the bottle), however most of the bottle is in Chinese. The name of the lab is ningbo renjian pharm.... It has the powder in it but I am not sure exactly how much powder it is. Like I said most of the bottle is in Chinese, but there is a 2000 on there. I was thinking maybe 2000 Iu's? I have my Bac.. water just need to know how much to mix. I would like to run 500 Iu's eod for 2 weeks. Have been on test and tren for years and haven't used any gear since april 10th, (also have not done any PCT) so as you might imagine I am struggling and my wife and I are trying to have a baby. I also have 50 clomids. Any help here would be appreciated.
 
since my test is so low would 500 iu's eod until I run 4000 iu's plus 1 clomid a day for a month get me to feel NORMAL again...also is an insulin needle ok and should I hit my stomach in the fat or IM?
 
EX1855 said:
Hey need a little help. I have 2 bottles of HCG (at least thats what it says on the bottle), however most of the bottle is in Chinese. The name of the lab is ningbo renjian pharm.... It has the powder in it but I am not sure exactly how much powder it is. Like I said most of the bottle is in Chinese, but there is a 2000 on there. I was thinking maybe 2000 Iu's? I have my Bac.. water just need to know how much to mix. I would like to run 500 Iu's eod for 2 weeks. Have been on test and tren for years and haven't used any gear since april 10th, (also have not done any PCT) so as you might imagine I am struggling and my wife and I are trying to have a baby. I also have 50 clomids. Any help here would be appreciated.


I'm almost certain that your amps are 2000iu
 
EX1855 said:
since my test is so low would 500 iu's eod until I run 4000 iu's plus 1 clomid a day for a month get me to feel NORMAL again...also is an insulin needle ok and should I hit my stomach in the fat or IM?

Don't bother with IM for HCG bro. Just pinch of some fat near your belly button and squirt it in there Sub-Q. Stings like a motherfucker but whatever.
 
pharmacist.

hcg is one of those funny drugs with a funny therapeutic index - injecting more does not neccessarily give you a good result

a guy by teh name of swale had a dosage regime that i agreed with a couple of years ago. ive forgotten it however (oops lol)

also, be aware that needto made a typo above - if you add 3ml of water you dont get a 500iu/ml dose - you get a 666.6iu/ml dose

also the guy who said that hcg subcutaneously into belly fat is correct. you dont have to go as deep as IM with hcg - and being a water based preparation, the outcomes of infection are far less severe if you use the subcutanous route, and so you should certainly take that into account
 
Thanks fellas, I am using 1/2 inch insulin needs and running 500 iu's EOD with 50 mg of clomid daily. Hopefully this will get me to feeling "normal" again, man I thought baby makin was supposed to be fun, but now with all this "low test/sperm levels", docs, and the draggin ass feeling I have. I am just ready to have a kid and get back to a lil tren/test concoction.
 
I thought you were NOT supposed to mix clomid with HCG, right? At least that what seems to be the consensus on this forum and a lot of the literature I have read about HCG as part of PCT. Isn't Tamoxifen a better option?
 
GoldenDelicious said:
pharmacist.

hcg is one of those funny drugs with a funny therapeutic index - injecting more does not neccessarily give you a good result

a guy by teh name of swale had a dosage regime that i agreed with a couple of years ago. ive forgotten it however (oops lol)

also, be aware that needto made a typo above - if you add 3ml of water you dont get a 500iu/ml dose - you get a 666.6iu/ml dose

also the guy who said that hcg subcutaneously into belly fat is correct. you dont have to go as deep as IM with hcg - and being a water based preparation, the outcomes of infection are far less severe if you use the subcutanous route, and so you should certainly take that into account
Shit thanks for that bro. :heart:
 
lookinfit75 said:
I thought you were NOT supposed to mix clomid with HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - , right? At least that what seems to be the consensus on this forum and a lot of the literature I have read about HCG as part of PCT - post cycle therapy - . Isn't Tamoxifen a better option?


why would mixing Clomid and HCG be a bad idea?
 
GoldenDelicious said:
pharmacist.

hcg is one of those funny drugs with a funny therapeutic index - injecting more does not neccessarily give you a good result

a guy by teh name of swale had a dosage regime that i agreed with a couple of years ago. ive forgotten it however (oops lol)

also, be aware that needto made a typo above - if you add 3ml of water you dont get a 500iu/ml dose - you get a 666.6iu/ml dose

also the guy who said that hcg subcutaneously into belly fat is correct. you dont have to go as deep as IM with hcg - and being a water based preparation, the outcomes of infection are far less severe if you use the subcutanous route, and so you should certainly take that into account

his protocol is 10 days of 500iu ED, 2 weeks post cycle, or every 30-40 days on HRT.. he likes to use bursts of HCG for therapy..

I heard HCG is not as effective IM, it dissolves much faster than in fat.. I dunno..

About the stinging, mix it with more water, and inject more volume, less compound.

What do you think about hCG being no good after 4 weeks of being reconstituted..???
 
What do you think about hCG being no good after 4 weeks of being reconstituted..???

Good question. I think that many are start to question this generally accepted rule. I still get the same results 6 weeks after mixing. Never have gone beyond that because I use it up.

I think the key is to keep it in the refrigerator and avoid allowing it to heat up and cool. I think changes in temp have an impact on the shelf-life after it is mixed.
 
Burpees said:
his protocol is 10 days of 500iu ED, 2 weeks post cycle, or every 30-40 days on HRT.. he likes to use bursts of HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - for therapy..


Is that what you do, or do you use on cycle. I'm still trying to decide what exactly I want to do. It seems to me that it would make sense to take it after. I was reading some journals of people who used it P.C. and had their testes come back to normal size.
 
the small soldier said:
Is that what you do, or do you use on cycle. I'm still trying to decide what exactly I want to do. It seems to me that it would make sense to take it after. I was reading some journals of people who used it P.C. and had their testes come back to normal size.

That's Dr Swales protocol for restarting males. It's good for PCT too, but I haven't had to use hCG yet. I would run it on cycle I just can't seem to find any so what I have will be best used at the end of my cycle..
 
I've been doing a lot of reading. Many people feel that taking HCG during cycle (as opposed to after) is good, but what about after the cycle is over? should HCG be used as part of a PCT as well? Many of the readings I've been looking at indicate it would be wise to use it as part of PCT as well. Now all these HCG use seems bad too and can lead to Gyno? So it would make sense to me that some kind of anti-e should be used along with the HCG whether it is used on cycle, for PCT, or both.

Another thought...If one were to take HCG on cycle and keep their testes full and producing as normal what would be the point to doing PCT at all? If your HPTA is maintained throughout the cycle why would you need to try and "bring it back" with PCT if it is already functioning normally?
 
the small soldier said:
I've been doing a lot of reading. Many people feel that taking HCG during cycle (as opposed to after) is good, but what about after the cycle is over? should HCG be used as part of a PCT as well? Many of the readings I've been looking at indicate it would be wise to use it as part of PCT as well. Now all these HCG use seems bad too and can lead to Gyno? So it would make sense to me that some kind of anti-e should be used along with the HCG whether it is used on cycle, for PCT, or both.

Another thought...If one were to take HCG on cycle and keep their testes full and producing as normal what would be the point to doing PCT at all? If your HPTA is maintained throughout the cycle why would you need to try and "bring it back" with PCT if it is already functioning normally?

no hcg shuts you down, and converts to E..affecting your E2. once you are fully recovered you can use hCG in short high dose cycles to stimulate higher T production and even to keep fat at bay.. Research hCG therapy.
 
The F*ckin Urologist I went to would not prescribe me HCG so I found some myself, I have had the clomid for awhile. I am hoping that running this will increase my sperm count/ sex drive and allow my wife and I to have a healthy child. I mean we want a kid very bad and then you see those f#cks out there killing there kids and Sh!t. Makes me sick.
 
EX1855 said:
The F*ckin Urologist I went to would not prescribe me HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - so I found some myself, I have had the clomid for awhile. I am hoping that running this will increase my sperm count/ sex drive...


what were you on, how much, and for how long, that you got shut down so bad?
 
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