HCG, what why and how

[Realgains]

HCG keep your axis suppressed. It should definatly not be used, especially with the availability of clomid.

Taking HCG during a cycle causes an increase in testicular mass. This increased mass doesn't just go away the week you stop the hcg bro. Yes it will suppress HPTA BUT you are already supressed FULLY while on gear so that is a non issue.

Ones testes CANNOT respond their best to clomid alone post cycle since the testes have reduced mass. How well you respond to clomid has a lot to do with how samll your your testes are when you start clomid.

You should re-read my initial post as it doesn't seem like you understand HCG.

RG

 

[robsatx]

BUMP!

Over the border in Mex (post #38)

What HCG should I purchase down there?

 

[Realgains]

Re: BUMP!

Over the border in Mex (post #38)

What HCG should I purchase down there?

Go to a Farmacia and they will have some in the frige..any mexican brand is good as the stuff is not faked.

RG

 

[Shinobi]

Well, my right nut is almost twice the size of my left nut. So what doest this mean? I mean, i am right handed, so maybe my right side needs more test? lol

 

[Realgains]

Well, my right nut is almost twice the size of my left nut. So what doest this mean? I mean, i am right handed, so maybe my right side needs more test? lol

If that is the way things were before steroid use then it's no big deal but if this has hppened as a result of a cycle it may indicate that one testes was more affected than the other.

RG

 

[TheHype]

Good informative post.

IMO HCG is old school thought.

As you said it has no real use as post cycle therapy since it doesnt recover the HPTA suppression but actually makes it worse.

Whereas I agree with all the physiology from what I gather from your post the reason to take is it to reverse testicular atrophy and make the testes enlarge near the end opf the cycle.

I find that somewhat difficult to envisage.

Now if we analyse the structure of the testes
A testicle contains about 250 testicular lobules; insides each of these are 1 to 3 tightly coiled seminiferous tubules. If outstretched, each seminiferous tube would be 2 to 3 feet in length. The seminferous tubules are the site of sperm production


The seminiferous tubules are also lined with pyramid-shaped cells known as the Sertoli cells. Located in spaces between the seminiferous tubules are the interstitial cells, which are also known as the Leydig cells. Their function is to produce testosterone,

So the testes is mainly comprised of tubules and sertoli cells.
Leydig cells are less in number,the very name interstitial cells tells you they are scattered in between the tubules.

As HCG has the actions of LH it acts on the Leydig cells.

So to increase the size of atrophied testes HCG would not be the drug of choice and along with its HPTA suppressive effects thats why IMO it is redundant.

Peace.

 

[Realgains]

Good informative post.

IMO HCG is old school thought.

As you said it has no real use as post cycle therapy since it doesnt recover the HPTA suppression but actually makes it worse.

Whereas I agree with all the physiology from what I gather from your post the reason to take is it to reverse testicular atrophy and make the testes enlarge near the end opf the cycle.

I find that somewhat difficult to envisage.

Now if we analyse the structure of the testes
A testicle contains about 250 testicular lobules; insides each of these are 1 to 3 tightly coiled seminiferous tubules. If outstretched, each seminiferous tube would be 2 to 3 feet in length. The seminferous tubules are the site of sperm production


The seminiferous tubules are also lined with pyramid-shaped cells known as the Sertoli cells. Located in spaces between the seminiferous tubules are the interstitial cells, which are also known as the Leydig cells. Their function is to produce testosterone,

So the testes is mainly comprised of tubules and sertoli cells.
Leydig cells are less in number,the very name interstitial cells tells you they are scattered in between the tubules.

As HCG has the actions of LH it acts on the Leydig cells.

So to increase the size of atrophied testes HCG would not be the drug of choice and along with its HPTA suppressive effects thats why IMO it is redundant.

Peace.

All I can say to this is ...NOT! he he he .

RG

 

[Realgains]

Up for the newbies that are sending me pm's
RG

 

[pittbull2]

Another great read Bro!! pming you now

 

[stub]

I read on AnabolicReview that HCG need not be injected ED.

"Since the testosterone level remains considerably elevated for several days, it is unnecessary to inject HCG more than once every 5 days. "

Any thoughts?

stub