HCG, what why and how

[Inca82]

Great post! I think that someone on here who can write well should address how to mix the HCG for first time users. I get a lot of PM's from people about it. Unfortunately, I don't have the best written expression. I see a lot of the same with first time GH users. I guess that people don't realize their HCG is 5000iu's (powder) regardless once it is mixed with water. A lot of people add all the water then don't know how to measure what they are withdrawing.
Hopefully, someone can address this and add it to a sticky so we can put the topic of HCG to rest...

Thanks again

Karma to you for the post!

i know i'm bumping this thread from the dead but can someone instruct me on how to mix my 5000IU's of HCG it came with powder and a vial of liquid.

please take it easy on me i'm still a noob.

 

[hulksterii]

Interesting thread and discussion. Not that I am a consensus builder I am concerned still about my own situation whileon HRT. I am to take 500IU every week while on my HRT. Speaking to a knowledgeable friend he suggested that I just stop and wait until the point that I am near the end of this cycle (6-months).

I too have noticed a pulling and aching sensation after an injection - which is offset from my Test injections. What do you think? Stop the HCG now and wait until the end and then start the injections?

Thanks

 

[FunFun]

Good informative post.

IMO HCG is old school thought.

As you said it has no real use as post cycle therapy since it doesnt recover the HPTA suppression but actually makes it worse.

Whereas I agree with all the physiology from what I gather from your post the reason to take is it to reverse testicular atrophy and make the testes enlarge near the end opf the cycle.

I find that somewhat difficult to envisage.

Now if we analyse the structure of the testes
A testicle contains about 250 testicular lobules; insides each of these are 1 to 3 tightly coiled seminiferous tubules. If outstretched, each seminiferous tube would be 2 to 3 feet in length. The seminferous tubules are the site of sperm production


The seminiferous tubules are also lined with pyramid-shaped cells known as the Sertoli cells. Located in spaces between the seminiferous tubules are the interstitial cells, which are also known as the Leydig cells. Their function is to produce testosterone,

So the testes is mainly comprised of tubules and sertoli cells.
Leydig cells are less in number,the very name interstitial cells tells you they are scattered in between the tubules.

As HCG has the actions of LH it acts on the Leydig cells.

So to increase the size of atrophied testes HCG would not be the drug of choice and along with its HPTA suppressive effects thats why IMO it is redundant.

Peace.

There were some interesting points made in this 6 year old thread, but this post above deserved more scrutiny. It was rejected out of hand by the OP because of its radical point of view. In fact the OP didn't even bother arguing the points made and they were made respectfully by a new poster who totaled 2 posts before he moved on.

It got me thinking.

Why does everyone assume that smaller testicles automatically translates into lower testosterone production? It would seem from the above post that the testosterone production sites make up a small fraction of their mass. Perhaps lowered sperm production is the main reason for the shrinkage.

I don't know jack shit about this, but I think it merits more discussion.