HCG >> Throughout Cycle -OR- Before Clomid Therapy ?

[cartoon_muscles]

Cycle
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wk 1-8 500mg test enan.
wk 1-8 100mg primo.
wk 1-11 .25mg liquidex ED (.5mg ED if needed)
wk 11 Clomid 100mg ED (300 mg on first day of week)
wk 12 Clomid 50mg ED
wk 13 Clomid 50mg ED
wk 14 Clomid 50mg ED (needed ?)

nolvadex as needed


Getting ready to start cycle. Wondering if 500i.u. on Sat,Sun throughout cycle wk 1-11 or heavier treatments in wk 10 only ?

Thanks,
D

 

[Zyglamail]

I personally dont see a need for long term use or high dose use. If the systle is a long one taking HCG in the middle for 10 days or so can help with testicular atrophy but thats about it. At the end of the cycle it is also only good for reversing atrophy. I personally feel the best time to use it would be just prior to exo androgen levels dropping low enough so recovery can start. Depending on the AAS used this time frame may fall at the tail end of cycle (ie like a tren prop cycle) or may fall into the time frame after last injection and before clomid/nolva.

 

[The Terminator]

I like the 500 iu every Sat. and Sun. throughout the entire cycle. But remember that I get pretty heavy atrophy and sensitivity so by keeping testicular mass throughout that is avoided (for me anyway). I like the preventative approach advocated by guys like SWALE and LAWNSAVER. Since I am coming off cycle just this week I can't say whether or not it will end up giving me more permanent gains, but the soreness/atrophy was avoided for the most part...(and that right there made it worth it imo)

 

[jboldman]

This is the position that I am at as well, use for ~2 weeks at the end of the cycle timed to end with the point of exo test dropping to physiologic levels, so for something like, enanthate, start the hcg immediately after your last shot and continue for 1.5-2 weeks.

jb

I personally dont see a need for long term use or high dose use. If the systle is a long one taking HCG in the middle for 10 days or so can help with testicular atrophy but thats about it. At the end of the cycle it is also only good for reversing atrophy. I personally feel the best time to use it would be just prior to exo androgen levels dropping low enough so recovery can start. Depending on the AAS used this time frame may fall at the tail end of cycle (ie like a tren prop cycle) or may fall into the time frame after last injection and before clomid/nolva.