HCG Therapy

[Burpees]

I'm considering running 250iu's 2x's a week after I'm done with my cycle and PCT.. the reasoning is keeping my own Test high and facilitate fat loss, and muscle retention while on a caloric deficit post-pct. I guess i'm using it as a test booster.

Anyone have any thoughts, feedback, better suggestions?

 

[spyrul]

I pulled this from another dot com...

HCG CYCLES

As regards HCG´s use of Post-Cycle-Therapy (PCT), smaller and more frequent doses after a cycle of AAS would give the best results with the least amount of side effects. A dose of 250iu to 500iu everyday (ed) for 2 to 3 weeks is plenty and should very little from person to person (3). The Physicians Desk Reference recommends 500iu/day, as did the late, great, Dan Duchaine. The smaller doses are sufficient enough to begin reversal of testicular atrophy and used in conjunction with nolva, will help the already present problem of recovery without raising the levels of estrogen to high and increasing the risk of gynecomastia in the user. Lower doses of 250iu to 500iu also avoid the further risk of down regulating LH receptors in the testes. The old saying more is better definitely does not apply to the use of HCG. You don´t want to finish PCT after using too much HCG only to find out your back at the beginning again. Your best bet is to start at 250iu or 500iu ed for 5 or 6 days, and if you don´t notice anything happening (nuts dropping and getting bigger) up the dose slightly. Small doses like 500iu two days a week isn´t going to cut it like some people think. The only thing small doses of HCG ay be useful (sublingually) for is reducing symptoms of benign prostatic hyperplasia (7). Yeah, that´s right, you can probably reduce some symptoms of an enlarged prostate with the use of small doses of HCG.

As stated above the cycles of HCG should be in the 2 to 3 week range with a least one month off in between, you could stretch your cycle out to four weeks without any major concern if you are using lower doses. One should however take care when using HCG as prolonged use could repress the body´s natural production of gonadotropins permanently, but this is mostly just pure speculation as it does not have yet to be reported nor has there been a case of an overdose. To be on the safe side shorter cycles of HCG seem to be that of the norm. Most users cycle HCG near the end of a steroid cycle, you should start your HCG therapy on the last week of your cycle. For best results you should also run nolva while you run HCG as taking HCG by itself will do little to nothing and gyno even though rare may also flair up. Once the HCG cycle is finished you continue with your usual clomid or nolvadex (preferably the latter) for pct as it is more effective when used in conjunction HCG for pct. With an AAS cycle of 6 to 10 weeks HCG may not be necessary unless extreme doses of AAS were used or there is an existing problem of testicular atrophy or you are running a heavy oral only cycle. AAS cycles of 12 or more weeks should have HCG as a part of post cycle plan.

 

[Burpees]

I pulled this from another dot com...

HCG CYCLES

As regards HCG´s use of Post-Cycle-Therapy (PCT), smaller and more frequent doses after a cycle of AAS would give the best results with the least amount of side effects. A dose of 250iu to 500iu everyday (ed) for 2 to 3 weeks is plenty and should very little from person to person (3). The Physicians Desk Reference recommends 500iu/day, as did the late, great, Dan Duchaine. The smaller doses are sufficient enough to begin reversal of testicular atrophy and used in conjunction with nolva, will help the already present problem of recovery without raising the levels of estrogen to high and increasing the risk of gynecomastia in the user. Lower doses of 250iu to 500iu also avoid the further risk of down regulating LH receptors in the testes. The old saying more is better definitely does not apply to the use of HCG. You don´t want to finish PCT after using too much HCG only to find out your back at the beginning again. Your best bet is to start at 250iu or 500iu ed for 5 or 6 days, and if you don´t notice anything happening (nuts dropping and getting bigger) up the dose slightly. Small doses like 500iu two days a week isn´t going to cut it like some people think. The only thing small doses of HCG ay be useful (sublingually) for is reducing symptoms of benign prostatic hyperplasia (7). Yeah, that´s right, you can probably reduce some symptoms of an enlarged prostate with the use of small doses of HCG.

As stated above the cycles of HCG should be in the 2 to 3 week range with a least one month off in between, you could stretch your cycle out to four weeks without any major concern if you are using lower doses. One should however take care when using HCG as prolonged use could repress the body´s natural production of gonadotropins permanently, but this is mostly just pure speculation as it does not have yet to be reported nor has there been a case of an overdose. To be on the safe side shorter cycles of HCG seem to be that of the norm. Most users cycle HCG near the end of a steroid cycle, you should start your HCG therapy on the last week of your cycle. For best results you should also run nolva while you run HCG as taking HCG by itself will do little to nothing and gyno even though rare may also flair up. Once the HCG cycle is finished you continue with your usual clomid or nolvadex (preferably the latter) for pct as it is more effective when used in conjunction HCG for pct. With an AAS cycle of 6 to 10 weeks HCG may not be necessary unless extreme doses of AAS were used or there is an existing problem of testicular atrophy or you are running a heavy oral only cycle. AAS cycles of 12 or more weeks should have HCG as a part of post cycle plan.

Yea, at least that article was honest enough to state there is no proof..thanks for the post.

I was thinking of taking 4 weeks off after my 8 weeks of PCT, then run HCG at 250iu x2's a week along with 50mg of Proviron a day. 4 weeks on, 2 weeks off, repeat. The goal would be to diet hard, and minimize muscle loss, by keeping my natural homeostasis high.

I'd like some feed back from folks who've done this...?

 

[Chocolate_Thunder]

Yea, at least that article was honest enough to state there is no proof..thanks for the post.

I was thinking of taking 4 weeks off after my 8 weeks of PCT, then run HCG at 250iu x2's a week along with 50mg of Proviron a day. 4 weeks on, 2 weeks off, repeat. The goal would be to diet hard, and minimize muscle loss, by keeping my natural homeostasis high.
I'd like some feed back from folks who've done this...?

This can be done with diet alone. As long as it is spot on.

I agree with the article as well, that there is no proof. I would also question the fact if you would be come desensitized to the HCG after so long?

 

[HAYEZ]

hcg is suppressive...i wouldnt do it..if you really want to try and get ur tezt up give the sustain alpha a shot..seems to work..my last pct was breeze and made gains all the way through pct never crashed..sure it would do some good as a aid...forget the hcg though thats puttin ya backwards

 

[bsdgeek]

if you look into it for fat loss, the maximum dose is 125 iu ED. any more than that gives adverse reactions in some of the test subjects in studies. it also has a very strict diet, and the maximum time on is 42 days, while most subjects stay on for only 23 days. some docs prescribe it for up-regulation of test levels, but you'd have to cycle off for a while, as your body does get used to it, and it becomes less effective, but after you're off it for a while(can't remember the time frame), it then becomes as effective as it was when you first took it. let's be clear here, the desensitizing of the leydig cells everyone talks about on here is not permanent, but only temporary. once you've finished your cycle and had time off, you normalize, and hcg will become just as effective on the next cycle as it was on this one. jus my two bro.

 

[DaveTSI]

save it for pct and for during your cycle. running hcg for gains is retarded

 

[HAYEZ]

save it for pct and for during your cycle. running hcg for gains is retarded

+100 lolol

 

[bsdgeek]

save it for pct and for during your cycle. running hcg for gains is retarded

yep, but it can be done. i personally wouldn't, but i have an hrt doc right now who wrote me a script to boost my test levels. i was like "what the fuck?", apparently he's doing this quite a bit. i just kept the script, now i'm legal with the hcg. i'm not exactly sure what kind of 'gains' you'd see from running it like that, but it'd be interesting to see. i'm sure it'd be nothing like gear, probably more like a weak prohormone. only thing is, in order to get the so-called 'test boost' you'd have to take a dose that would promote fat retention. in studies where subjects took large doses and were consuming a normal diet hcg has been known a very large percent of the time to increase sub-q fat pretty bad.

so, this is why it's retarded to run it for gains.

 

[deezy1225]

the reasoning is keeping my own Test high and facilitate fat loss, and muscle retention while on a caloric deficit post-pct. I guess i'm using it as a test booster.

if you want a test booster get PP's test recovery stack, i used it as a test booster and its amazing! or try durma