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hCG protocal investigation.

Big_Joe

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There has been a great deal of postings of how to use hCG. They all seem to be based on a single post by a person that has the login name of Dr. Swale. I decided to do some investigation about this "doctor." I started this by doing a google search or ["Dr. Swale" ] { NOTE: all google and pubmed searches will be demarked by brackets [] } and found a number of posts but only ones on body building sites had anything to do with TRT or hCG. ( Please do a google search youreself for "Dr. Swale" and don't forget the quotes.)

At this point I became suspicious, actually I had been suspicious for some time, and checked out one of the old posts archived on a body building site. I went to this URL "http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/anabolic-zone/59873-pct-dr-swale-another-bb-site.html" and found the original post. In this post the good doctor says "I'm just running to catch a plane for Las Vegas, attending the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine International Conference. I guess they are supposed to publish an article I wrote on how to administer TRT for men. Wish me luck!." This is a lead on how to find him.

I then did a google search on ["American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine International Conference" "Dr. Swale"] and found 7 hits all pointing to the original PCT posts on body building sites. At this point I shortened my search criteria to only [ "American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine International Conference" ] This produced a very interesting result. On a site called "All Things Male" ( URL All Things Male - Center for Men's Health ) I found a Dr. John Crisler DO. ( notice it's not MD ). On "All Things Male" you then click on publications you find a link to Reports written and published by Dr. Crisler:. One of them is titled "HCG Update." If you open and read this paper you will find the very same advice that the non existant Dr. Swale posted. I have located Dr Swale!! He is John Crisler DO.

On the site "All Things Male" says "Leading TRT expert Dr. Crisler is now available for consultations". So Dr. Crisler is saying he is a leader in TRT. So lets see if he has published any articles in peer reviewed journals. I went to Pubmed. Pubmed is such a great site. It has just about every article published in peer reviewed journals that have been printed going back many decades. So using Pubmed I did a search for [ "John Crisler" ]. I got zero hits. So maybe it's the fact that I used John in my search. The next search I did was just on Crisler [Crisler]. This returned 100 hits. I read the titles of all of them. None had anything to do with TRT or hCG. One did have something to do with sex hormones in mice. One of the authors was named Crisler but it was a C Crisler and the article was published in 1966 so I have strong doubts that it's John Crisler at "All Things Male."

So it appears that this "leader" has not published a single article. But maybe my searches are not looking in the right place. John Crisler isn't an MD he is a DO. This means that he is a Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine. Osteopathic Medicine has it's own journal called "Journal of the American Osteopathic Association." Maybe pubmed doesn't have articles from this journal, unlikely but possible. So I did a search on Pubmed for [ "Journal of the American Osteopathic Association" ]. This search returned 6799 articles. I suspect that this is every article that has been published in the "Journal of the American Osteopathic Association" and John Crisler DO hasn't authored one of them. Some leader!

Now the question comes up as to why I would go to all this work? I have some training in medicine and have been studying all of the peer reviewed articles on Pubmed about Human Chorionic Gonadotropin. There are 9577 articles about hCG on Pubmed. None of them seem to support Dr. John Crislers' theory about hCG useage. I am currently reviewing all 9577 articles on Human Chorionic Gonadotropin and am putting together a paper about it's use in regards to PCT in people that use steroids. Obviously 9577 articles is a large amount of reading and few of them directly relate to PCT. So some conclusions will be drawn from what is in the articles and I will make all listings available so others, my peers, can check on my work and see if I have misinformed the community. But I must point out that as of this date my studies tell me that Dr. John Crislers' theories of hCG doesn't hold water and misleads many people in the body building community to the point that his ideas are counter productive to the process of preventing catabolism/crashing after a cycle of steroids. I will support this statement in my next paper on hCG.

Big_Joe
 
I am truly a moron........but I have seen TRT a few times and have no idea what the first T stands for. I know what HRT is though.
 
Hey big joe, I mentioned in your last thread that Swale was John Crisler. Could have saved you a little work..LOL.

Anyways I am so looking forward to what you unearth here and kudos for you to take the time to do this.
 
Good investigation. Audacious comments. And for the most part, I agree.

It doesn;t surprise me that people perpetuate rumors myths and misconceptions on the internet, but what DOES surprise me is when they continue telling them WHEN THEY OBVIOUSLY DON'T WORK VERY WELL.

Years ago I had someone perpetually blast me for my stance on CLomid. Then he did a big ass cycle and the Clomid didn;t work and he was like a whinny little bitch asking for help because he had no dick.

I never agreed with Dr. Swales methods. And as for All Things Male, all I'll say is that I had two clients who went to them and they were so over-prescribed that it took months of proper PCT to get them to recover from the PCT that the clinic had them on.

Any doctor, even a dentist can prescribe steroids, HCG, HGH and anti estrogens. Remember that. Don;t get too excited just because someone has the legal authority to give you what you want. Too much rope can hang you.

I can't say for sure if All Things MAle is a scam and maybe Swale is sincere in his beliefs. But nobody... NOBODY'S word is gospel. Not his, not yours, not mine . But people should be DOUBLY suspicious of anyone who doles out advice without ever being published somewhere outside the internet. We've seen dozens of examples of so called gurus who just turned out to be kids, assholes, scammers and thieves.

As for HCG, it's on its way out anyway. Just like nolva and clomid, which have been replaced with safer, more effective natural options. For kickstarting PCT and restoring testicular volume, HMG is the way to go.

Good post.
 
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What is the difference between the two?

Not much really. HRT (Hormone Replacement Therapy) is much more general and is not defined to just men and can include other hormones like HGH, Oestrogen etc. Test is a hormone too after all so it's only in the name here.
 
Swale did bring some good ideas to the table but has been booted from just about any forum he attends for going nutso and freaking out on members who have opposing ideas or attempt to offer help. [He seems a little too wrapped up in getting guys to pay for consultations]

-Pp
 
nice find

i posted some of his ideas along with my own in a recent thread

and nelson i agree, people need to experiment on their own body with HCG/HMG

and YES HMG is the future :)
 
I have been dreaming with HMG for years now, but of course, too expensive and hard to find. :(
 
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