HCG PCT when nuts are "normal"

[Sub-Zero]

tomorrow is my last shot of prop, and my nuts are not atrophied at all

i have been hitting 250iu HCG mon/thurs for my entire cycle

i was considering making this thursday's dose at 500iu, but is this necessary if my nuts arnt atrophied at all? - should i just go with 250iu, and then assess whether i need booster shots as the test finishes clearing?

if my nuts are not atrophied that means they are producing normally, correct?

or on the complete other sisde of the spectrum, i just finished a vial of HCG, today, so would there be anything wrong with seeing if i can get away with not using HCG at all, and just coming off and hope i dont get shut down between now and the weekend when the prop is cleared?

i will be running aromisin and nolva for PCT

thanks!

 

[stevesmi]

no. your nuts are plump cause of the hcg. but it doesn't mean you won't still crash when the prop is gone.

run your PCT like normal.

the only difference is the prop is out quickly, vs. long test esthers that takes 3 weeks.

a perfect solution for you would be a couple doses of HMG between the hcg and your SERM.

 

[Sub-Zero]

no. your nuts are plump cause of the hcg. but it doesn't mean you won't still crash when the prop is gone.

run your PCT like normal.

the only difference is the prop is out quickly, vs. long test esthers that takes 3 weeks.

a perfect solution for you would be a couple doses of HMG between the hcg and your SERM.

well, my nuts are plump from the HCG, but thats what it does right?

wouldnt more HCG Just replump them?

or is the plump not a sign of working nuts

 

[stevesmi]

being plump is definately not a sign you are recovered. life would be simple if it was that easy.

i would get a blood test done a month after your esthers clear and see where you are at if you are curious.

i do think hcg helps soften the landing, but some on here disagree and say just let your plumps turn to raisins, usually guys who are on HRT and do not cycle.

 

[Sub-Zero]

being plump is definately not a sign you are recovered. life would be simple if it was that easy.

i would get a blood test done a month after your esthers clear and see where you are at if you are curious.

i do think hcg helps soften the landing, but some on here disagree and say just let your plumps turn to raisins, usually guys who are on HRT and do not cycle.

i dont mean neglecting PCT entirely im talking purely about the HCG component

if my nuts are plump, then isnt HCG doing its job? and would MORE HCG be overkill?

maybe thats what you were talking about but i just wanted to be sure i got what i was saying based on your response

 

[Zyglamail]

With prop I would propaply continue hcg as you were using it on cycle for a couple weeks after last injection. No need to up the dose or anything.

 

[Sub-Zero]

With prop I would propaply continue hcg as you were using it on cycle for a couple weeks after last injection. No need to up the dose or anything.

when should i stop? when i bump the nolva down from 40 to 20 ed? or like a week into pct?

 

[stevesmi]

i dont mean neglecting PCT entirely im talking purely about the HCG component

if my nuts are plump, then isnt HCG doing its job? and would MORE HCG be overkill?

maybe thats what you were talking about but i just wanted to be sure i got what i was saying based on your response

yes the hcg did its job. i've also had similar results from hcgenerate. my balls stayed plump.

i get what you are saying.. i still think you should up the dose going into PCT to help push your body to generate test on its own. but like zyg said, with prop your esther is so short that it is gonna be a little different

 

[Sub-Zero]

i appreciate the help guys

 

[Zyglamail]

The problem with upping the dose of HCG post cycle is that further suppresses the hypothalamus from releasing GnRH and in turn the pituitary from releasing LH. Its not just your testes that stop producing, its everything in the chain along the way so I feel the sooner you can get off everything the better. The HCG just counteracts the testicular atrophy by bypassing the hypothalamus and pituitary secretions. The pituitary and hypothalamus however produce various hormones so even though not specifically producing GnRH and LH respectively they shouldnt suffer the same atrophy the testes do.