HCG not working

[GiantsFan77]

Guys I am doing HCG and Clomid., 2000 iu eod, 50 mg clomid ed and its been about three weeks now and testicles still feel small and sex drive is not there either. I have unleashed at home but really just want to bring back my natural testoterone production. Any suggestions?

My first shot of HCG was a week after my last pin of Cyp and it was 4000 iu. Thanks for the help.

 

[oxymoron]

Part of the issue is that the hcg should be ran on cycle to the end. Or at least the last few weeks of pinning.

I would start the unleashed and post cycle combo, throw in some daa, and drop the clomid down to 25mg.

What was the exact cycle u ran?


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[joeblow12345]

Hcg shouldnt be used in pct as it can suppress you. You should have blasted it before pct. Then ran clomid(25 mg day), postcycle, unleashed, daa, and forma.

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[GiantsFan77]

Hcg shouldnt be used in pct as it can suppress you. You should have blasted it before pct. Then ran clomid(25 mg day), postcycle, unleashed, daa, and forma.

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I have never heard in my life that HCG can suppress you.

It was 12 weeks of cyp (highest dose 300 mgs) and Anavar for last six weeks at 30 mgs a day. Thats it.

I have unleashed and cannot get post cycle because its out of stock. Should I Just start unleashed or do the two go hand in hand together?

 

[squat till ya drop]

Am I the only person who saw he was running 2000 iu EVERY OTHER DAY ?!?! Thats counter productive due to the estrogenic increase that would cause. 250-300 iu twice weekly is perfectly effective... ? And should be led up to PCT to make recovery easier not other way around

 

[wootoom]

I always use HCG in and out of my cycle. There has to be something wrong with the HCG if you are using 2000ius/eod...maybe fake. As well as unleashed and clomid? Doesn't make sense.

 

[rockyourroll]

Am I the only person who saw he was running 2000 iu EVERY OTHER DAY ?!?! Thats counter productive due to the estrogenic increase that would cause. 250-300 iu twice weekly is perfectly effective... ? And should be led up to PCT to make recovery easier not other way around

Yeah, it's a lot of HCG. However it's not unheard of to blast the HCG at the end of a cycle in higher amounts versus running it throughout at lower amounts. You are right though he needs an AI if he's running that much.

Test your HCG with a pregnancy test:

 

[GiantsFan77]

Am I the only person who saw he was running 2000 iu EVERY OTHER DAY ?!?! Thats counter productive due to the estrogenic increase that would cause. 250-300 iu twice weekly is perfectly effective... ? And should be led up to PCT to make recovery easier not other way around

As someone else has mentioned I am doing a blast and it is not uncommon at all. 250-300 twice weekly is way too low. Not gonna get any type of recovery that way. You need 1000 iu M, W, F at least.

 

[joeblow12345]

I have never heard in my life that HCG can suppress you.

It was 12 weeks of cyp (highest dose 300 mgs) and Anavar for last six weeks at 30 mgs a day. Thats it.

I have unleashed and cannot get post cycle because its out of stock. Should I Just start unleashed or do the two go hand in hand together?

Well then you need to educate yourself on the matter. Over stimulation of the hpta can suppress you.

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[GiantsFan77]

Well then you need to educate yourself on the matter. Over stimulation of the hpta can suppress you.

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Okay thanks Ill check it out.

 

[rockyourroll]

Am I the only person who saw he was running 2000 iu EVERY OTHER DAY ?!?! Thats counter productive due to the estrogenic increase that would cause. 250-300 iu twice weekly is perfectly effective... ? And should be led up to PCT to make recovery easier not other way around

This is a good point about the estrogenic effects. However it still doesn't make sense is that the balls aren't coming back at all.

Add some Forma or Aromasin to bring estrogen down.

Did you test the HCG yet?

 

[GiantsFan77]

This is a good point about the estrogenic effects. However it still doesn't make sense is that the balls aren't coming back at all.

Add some Forma or Aromasin to bring estrogen down.

Did you test the HCG yet?

I have not tested it, it cannot be fake. However since I posted this thread I feel considerably better. I started unleashed and maybe that did it, I don't know but testicular volume is up considerably and sex drive has gotten much better. I am going to start Bridge as soon as it comes in a few days.

Doesn't clomid have anti estrogen properties in it or am I wrong on that? I've read somewhere it did. Thanks

 

[callmejay]

I have not tested it, it cannot be fake.

Your thread is titled "HCG not working" yet it cannot be fake?

Just sayin...

In any case, good to see everything is coming back to normal. Clomid does have anti-estrogenic properties @ the Hypothalamus. But it is not as effective as aromasin or arimidex.

 

[GiantsFan77]

Yes I didn't think it was working at the time I posted. I guess it takes time. Anyway, thanks for the input on the clomid.

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