Hcg during or pct ?

[mono_1]

Wanted to know how many of you use hcg during a cycle or just for pct?

 

[VooDooChild]

Im currently using hcg during cycle..500ius Mon and Thursday. No need to run it after, just a little bit of nolvadex and clomid!

 

[Stryker1992]

Wanted to know how many of you use hcg during a cycle or just for pct?

I traditionally used during pct, but due to some recent info I am using during cycle. i do prefer not to have my balls completely shrunk up during cycle. Researchers here are saying pct during cycle is more effective for setting a good pct recovery.

 

[mono_1]

bump

 

[mono_1]

anybody else want to add to this plz

 

[busamuscle]

I think the best ways to run hcg would be during the cycle at 500mcg/wk or 2 weeks prior to the end at 1000mcg/wk in split doses no greater than 250mcg/day.

 

[VooDooChild]

Im doing Swales HCG Protocol. I can post it up if you like..

 

[Ross]

You're going to get alot of mixed responses.

This game involves a TON of trial and error.

I would suggest using it POST-cycle, but that's just me.

 

[Nelson Montana]

It's a personal choice. I feel it's a bit of waste to use it while on because you're just going to re-supress anyway. Why desensitize the ledig cells?

HCG does two things -- part cosmetic, and part jump start to get the HPTA back on track. The body builds up a tolerance pretty quickly and once it does, it'll take a long time being off before it becomes effective again. So my vote -- use it only PC. And only a few days.

Then again, there's HCG use during HRT. Different story.

 

[Ross]

It's a personal choice. I feel it's a bit of waste to use it while on because you're just going to re-supress anyway. Why desensitize the ledig cells?

HCG does two things -- part cosmetic, and part jump start to get the HPTA back on track. The body builds up a tolerance pretty quickly and once it does, it'll take a long time being off before it becomes effective again. So my vote -- use it only PC. And only a few days.

Then again, there's HCG use during HRT. Different story.

We've been in agreement alot lately, huh Nelson?

 

[Mac173]

I always stick to post cycle.
Mainly for the reasons listed above.
I have always recovered fine using this method.
Many find that they recover better while using it during cycle.
If one way doesn't work for you try the other.

 

[Primordial Performance]

You wont desensitize your leydigs by using HCG at an LH replacement dose. Consider it Gonadotropin Replacement Therapy (GRT) while on cycle.

Once you let the leydigs go for so long, there is no amount of hCG that can recover them. When you wait 16 weeks to shoot hCG you are sacrificing your testosterone secretory capacity big time, especially if you allow yourself to become completely shutdown during cycle.

-Pp

 

[wzkid]

250iu EOD during my current cycle

 

[Bruce]

You're going to get alot of mixed responses.

This game involves a TON of trial and error.

I would suggest using it POST-cycle, but that's just me.

i agree with this. it depends what works for you. some guys need 1000ius 10 days straight with clomid and an anti e during pct. endo's will prescribe this. others do mon wed fri with their clomid and anti e. but i find that it works better for me to be on proviron throughout, use hcg whenever my testes seem have atrophy. i keep them at size, and really administer the hcg at the end of the cycle before i'm into pct. i'm making sure my testes are to size while still taking gear. then i go on clomid and aromasin. i know guys that doing hcg during pct will shut them down. so you really have to be careful. alot of times clomid is best for pct and hcg is better prior to that. remember hcg will suppress, so it is really being used to get your testes the main producers of test back to their size. the clomid is what is gonna get natty test pumpin. the proviron during cycle i have found just makes me feel no crash at all. i'm not saying you gain every ounce of muscle with proviron but you won't feel like you don't wanna hit the gym after the cycle is over like happens to many

 

[Smokescreen]

You wont desensitize your leydigs by using HCG at an LH replacement dose. Consider it Gonadotropin Replacement Therapy (GRT) while on cycle.

Once you let the leydigs go for so long, there is no amount of hCG that can recover them. When you wait 16 weeks to shoot hCG you are sacrificing your testosterone secretory capacity big time, especially if you allow yourself to become completely shutdown during cycle.

-Pp

Can you translate this into plain English? I'm not as highly educated as you are and all I read were....well...oh boy!

 

[Primordial Performance]

Can you translate this into plain English? I'm not as highly educated as you are and all I read were....well...oh boy!

Basically, if your testes don’t get used, you lose them. By lose them Im referring to the leydig cells which produce testosterone. They loose there ability to respond to LH and secrete testosterone.

Even if the testes don’t seem to shrink visually, they can become dramatically less useful. Its best to preserve their function and use HCG on cycle.

-Pp

 

[slat1]

During for me.

 

[needtogetaas]

I traditionally used during pct, but due to some recent info I am using during cycle. i do prefer not to have my balls completely shrunk up during cycle. Researchers here are saying pct during cycle is more effective for setting a good pct recovery.

same here i like it better this way.

 

[cj89899]

I just ran it during for the first time and I thought it was the best thing I ever tried. kept my balls full but most importantly I felt that it added to my cycle and recovery was seemless.