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Ok, this is becoming the rage down here in South Florida. A 30 day protocol of HCG administration to help you lose weight. They promise you lose 1-2 pounds per day. Yes, read that again.

However, this is what puzzles me. They claim that the HCG they use is not the HCG that we are used to. You know for fertility issues.


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What is hCG?

what is hcg

hCG stands for Human Chorionic Gonadotropin, a hormone naturally produced by the placenta in pregnant women and almost completely controls the metabolic function through the hypothalamus throughout the pregnancy. Contrary to popular belief however, the hCG used in the Hcg diet protocols is a variation of the hCG form used for fertility treatments, and in a much smaller dose. All hCG used for medical purposes is natural, but created in laboratories from sterile cells. It is NOT extracted from women or animal urine- a common misconception.


So WTF kind of HCG is this? Anyone see these anti aging clinic promoting the hell out of this.
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i've had friends of mine use this stuff with great results. I didnt think it was the HCG that "we" use though. This stuff comes either pre-mixed or un-mixed and you take it orally.
 
Ive read the book about this diet. I think it is a load of BS. It is an 800 kcal/day diet with HCG. In the book the author keeps referring the government coverup of this great weight loss tool because of big pharma money going all the way up to the President. It reads like a book about Area 51 or the Roswell incident.

B-
 
The source where I get my HCG references the HCG diet and they sell the typically fertility HCG we're used to.
 
I actually did this a diet a few months back.... it was the injectable variety that you guys normally take..mixed with bac water and use sub q pins
i had gained a crap load of weight when i had thyroid cancer and nothing and I mean nothing seemed to get rid of it all...what sucked is I had never had a problem with my weight ever before this

I dropped serious weight ina hurry that nothing else had gotten off..but it's claims that it curbs your appetite are BS tho...I think the actual keto state is what curbs your appetite

I also tweaked the food end of things to be more in line with a strictly keto diet (that I had tried before with minimal success)

the loss seemed to be largely BF rather than muscle, but I can't say i'd recommend it pre-comp or anything
 
of course you're gonna lose weight when you're only taking in 5-600 calories per day.

Also, it's funny cuz if you're a woman you're not allowed to wear makeup either.
 
of course you're gonna lose weight when you're only taking in 5-600 calories per day.

Also, it's funny cuz if you're a woman you're not allowed to wear makeup either.


I actually never went below 1000 cals, which I had done before and I actually went off of my cytomel while on the "diet"
I had done keto before and didnt get anywhere near the same results, ditto for phentermine

I also didn't adhere to the skin oils/makeup thing


I didn't really think it would work..and saw no real biological reason why it would...but it did

whats really weird is months later when I got pregenant..and still am, I havent gained any weight and seem to be losing more fat (baby is fine and growing well)

I'm not gonna say go run out and buy the crap through one of these insane clinics that charges nine times as much for it...but I'm not going to say dismiss it either

for me personally, I just kind of wonder if it "reset" my hormones because a lot of things changed; for instance my thyroid numbers are suddenly normal again...so who knows
 
we had a thread about this a while ago and i will say what i said at the time.

I know of 2 people who did this and lost weight. however I do think it is related to do lack of cals being eaten which provides a catabolic environment in the body. hence weight loss will occur. I do not understand why a fertility drug would help you lose weight. maybe someone can shed some light on the science behind it.
 
we had a thread about this a while ago and i will say what i said at the time.

I know of 2 people who did this and lost weight. however I do think it is related to do lack of cals being eaten which provides a catabolic environment in the body. hence weight loss will occur. I do not understand why a fertility drug would help you lose weight. maybe someone can shed some light on the science behind it.

The claim is that the HCG makes your body "eat" its fat and that because of this you have no hunger pangs for the 800 kcals.

B-
 
we had a thread about this a while ago and i will say what i said at the time.

I know of 2 people who did this and lost weight. however I do think it is related to do lack of cals being eaten which provides a catabolic environment in the body. hence weight loss will occur. I do not understand why a fertility drug would help you lose weight. maybe someone can shed some light on the science behind it.

In men HCG will unquestionably raise testosterone.
 
In men HCG will unquestionably raise testosterone.


whats weird is for me it undeniably cleared up my elevated test acne..


this pregnancy has done the same




about the overweight whole lives/obese thing


I'll buy that, but it didn't hold true for me


I have always kept cals below 1800 my entire adult life w/o trying and until recent spinal probs...always ran uhmmmm anywhere from 2miles to 5 miles a day...6 days a week
and had NEVER had an issue with body comp until the thyroid cancer

I totally don't think this will work for everyone but then...I don't think any one sized fits all plan does, and that includes serious macros adjustments and 6 meals a day advice
 
dunno...I wouldnt even sday it reduced my hunger...Ive never been a ravenous eater

the theory made some sort of bizarre sense to me...hcg stimulates the body to use fat stores first/ ie to accomadate a growing fetus

and my bf was still higher than I would have liked and since Ive been pregnant with this one...Im just really not hungry...and my weight hasnt changed an iota...my bf has gone down some more, but Id say Ive lost muscle too

my belly is huge tho :( << fetus not fat
 
Insanely restricted cals is what does it and its not recommended for athletes.
 
i dont know if it works but i know people are using the same real injectable hcg that we use. the oral stuff is supposed to be a huge scam and contain no hcg. but if it works or not i know people are injecting legit hcg @ about 500ius a day for like 3 months. men and women.

i see some sites selling hcg super expensive and other ive noticed are super cheap. i mean really cheap. and its legit too ive seen the pics of what people get. comes in the box and all.
 
Insanely restricted cals is what does it and its not recommended for athletes.


this is true as far as not recommended for athletes

my run didn't diminish in speed or endurance at all..but thats all I was doing...running...
they specifically don't wantr you working out at all while on the diet

and yeah, what 24/7 said...whether it works or not..its the same crap in a way higher dose /longer time period
 
this is true as far as not recommended for athletes

my run didn't diminish in speed or endurance at all..but thats all I was doing...running...
they specifically don't wantr you working out at all while on the diet

and yeah, what 24/7 said...whether it works or not..its the same crap in a way higher dose /longer time period

The HCG will cause a test increase in men which will have an anticatabolic effect and help to maintain muscle mass while eating like a 3rd grader.
 
i dont know if it works but i know people are using the same real injectable hcg that we use. the oral stuff is supposed to be a huge scam and contain no hcg. but if it works or not i know people are injecting legit hcg @ about 500ius a day for like 3 months. men and women.

i see some sites selling hcg super expensive and other ive noticed are super cheap. i mean really cheap. and its legit too ive seen the pics of what people get. comes in the box and all.

I don't want any posts going any further than this when it comes to talking about pricing/sources, etc.

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HCG Worthless as Weight-Loss Aid
Stephen Barrett, M.D.
Human chorionic gonadotrophin (HCG) is a hormone found in the urine of pregnant women. More than 50 years ago, Dr. Albert T. Simeons, a British-born physician, contended that HCG injections would enable dieters to subsist comfortably on a 500-calorie-a-day diet. He claimed that HCG would mobilize stored fat; suppress appetite; and redistribute fat from the waist, hips, and thighs [1]. There is no scientific evidence to support these claims [2-13]. Moreover, a 500-calorie (semi-starvation) diet is likely to result in loss of protein from vital organs, and HCG can cause other adverse effects. Gabe Mirkin, M.D., has noted:

At one time, HCG was the most widespread obesity medication administered in the United States. Some doctors liked it because it assured them of a steady clientele. Patients had to come in once a week for an injection [14].

Government Regulation
In 1976, the FTC ordered the Simeon Management Corporation, Simeon Weight Clinics Foundation, Bariatrics Management Corporation, C.M. Norcal, Inc., and HCG Weight Clinics Foundation and their officers to stop claiming that their HCG-based programs were safe, effective, and/or approved by the FDA for weight-control. Although the order did not stop the clinics from using HCG, it required that patients who contract for the treatment be informed in writing that:

THESE WEIGHT REDUCTION TREATMENTS INCLUDE THE INJECTION OF HCG, A DRUG WHICH HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED BY THE FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION AS SAFE AND EFFECTIVE IN THE TREATMENT OF OBSITY OR WEIGHT CONTROL. THERE IS NO SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT HCG INCEASES WEIGHT LOSS BEYOND THAT RESULTING FROM CALORIC RESTRICTION, THAT IT CAUSES A MORE ATTRACTIVE OR "NORMAL" DISTRIBUTION OF FAT, OR THAT IT DECREASES THE HUNGER AND DISCOMFORT ASSOCIATED WITH CALORIE-RESTRICTIVE DIETS [15].

Since 1975, the FDA has required labeling and advertising of HCG to state:

HCG has not been demonstrated to be effective adjunctive therapy in the treatment of obesity. There is no substantial evidence that it increases weight loss beyond that resulting from caloric restriction, that it causes a more attractive or "normal" distribution of fat, or that it decreases the hunger and discomfort associated with calorie-restricted diets.

Promotion By Kevin Trudeau
Negative studies and government action reduced the use of HGC injections for weight control close to zero. However, their promotion by infomercial king Kevin Trudeau may cause their use to increase. His 2007 book, The Weight Loss Cure They Don't Want You to Know About, claims that "an absolute cure for obesity was discovered almost fifty years ago" but was "suppressed" by the AMA, the FDA, and "other medical establishments throughout the world." Trudeau further claims that until now, "this miracle weight loss breakthrough has been hidden from the public so that drug companies can make billions of dollars selling their expensive drug treatments and surgical procedures for obesity." The alleged cure consists of HCG injections plus 50 to 60 required and recommended do's and don'ts [16].

In September 2007, the FTC charged Kevin Trudeau with violating a court order by misrepresenting the contents of the book. In infomercials, Trudeau falsely claimed that the book's weight-loss plan is easy to do, can be done at home, and ultimately allows readers to eat whatever they want. Previous FTC action had led to a court order banning from using infomercials to sell any product, service, or program except for books and other publications The order specified that he not misrepresent the content of the books. The FTC is now charging that he violated that narrow exemption [17].

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This article was revised on September 18, 2007.
 
Here's a post from a well known Dr. Maybe there is something to it after all.

Originally Posted by Dr. John Crisler
Well, you might be amused that I am changing my position on this subject. There simply are too many people out there doing too well on it.

The HCG directly affects the emotional centers of the brain, so the suffering of a starvation-level diet is abated. The T boost helps overcome the hypogonadism that also accompanies starvation.

Yup--that's a 180 degree about face.
 
well see...thats why I gave it a shot...my endo gave it a green light and said he had seen a lot of people do very well on it

seems like the people that really poo poo it either don't need to even do anything beyond normal diet and exercise or have never tried it for ny other reason

I really don't think it would do squat tho unless you were a higher bf to begin with..losing that last 3% I doubt this would help
 
I dont think anyone will argue that it doesnt work if followed, how can it not cause you to lose weight when starving yourself? However no athlete in their right mind would resort to this, way too much hard earned muscle and and performance at risk to lose a few lbs.
 
i agree zyglamail...but I dont think its really something intended for an athlete...but again...my run times never faltered


I'm also probably the worst example ever because my health was funky to begin with..


so with that, I respectfully bow out :)
 
i see is 250-500 iu's a day.


bblazer i didnt know it was against to rules to talk about online pharmacies. if so my bad.

No worries, bro. You didn't do anything wrong. I just didn't want anyone taking it any further.

I'm sorry if my post came off as a reprimand - that wasn't my intent.

B-
 
yes, I'm not exactly sure what the true ingredient is for this "hcg diet"...but I've seen an otc version at GNC with the term "HCG diet" in the heading. I'm assuming its an herbal play on words and not the true ingredient, similar to the rage of pro hormones and their similarity to steroids..
 
yes, I'm not exactly sure what the true ingredient is for this "hcg diet"...but I've seen an otc version at GNC with the term "HCG diet" in the heading. I'm assuming its an herbal play on words and not the true ingredient, similar to the rage of pro hormones and their similarity to steroids..

The OTC stuff is a scam and its to get all the people who wanna do it but are afraid to inject. brilliant marketing.


Prohub you guys should get in on it lol. just put "hcg diet aproved" next to your pregnyl so you get some hits and maybe people will order from you guys instead of these places charging an arm and a leg for one 5000iu vial.
 
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