HCG Debate

[marvelous54]

I was explaining to a friend that I feel that when a person is on and extended cycle (14 weeks or longer) they should consider HCG during cycle. He says he will be just fine running it post cycle. Here is the cycle in question:

D-bol 50mg/ed wks 1-6
Deca 400mg/ew wks 1-12
Test-cyp 500mg/ew wks 1-14
Proviron 50mg/ed wks 1-20
Tren-ace 100mg/eod wks 15-20
Winny 50mg/ed wks 15-20
Test-prop 100mg/eod wks 18-20
Clen wks 11-20
Aromasin 20mg/ed wks 1-20

I suggested he also run HCG @ 250mg/eod wks 1-20 (and of course a heavy duty pct)!

What is your opinion? Do you think with a cycle like this one should just run HCG post cycle or do you think it should be included throuout the cycle?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

too much HCG during cycle, once weekly dosing perhaps. you are looking at a serious increased gyno risk. though some people can run that just fine (but its a definite risk increase)

 

[marvelous54]

Macro, so you do think it needs to be ran during the cycle just at a less frequent interval?

At what dosage do you feel it should be administered?

 

[Dellyo]

Macro, so you do think it needs to be ran during the cycle just at a less frequent interval?

At what dosage do you feel it should be administered?

Bump

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Macro, so you do think it needs to be ran during the cycle just at a less frequent interval?

At what dosage do you feel it should be administered?

yes, frequent dosing like that will mean frequent spikes (and pretty much continual HCG exposure with high plasma levels exacerbated by those injection spikes)

perhaps 1/7-10days- though its going to vary by user response to HCG as well as side effects (for some dosage and frequency needed to get effect may be detrimental)

dosage is really going to depend on user response.

its not cookie cutter

 

[mlong23]

Not an hcg expert, but if you run it for an entire cycle, and then post cycle your body will not respond to hcg like you would like. too much hcg is bad for you.

 

[get456]

IMO the whole cycle needs an overhaul... if he is not a high level national competitor there is no reason to run that many chemicals for that long... ridiculous IMO

 

[Slyder190]

I run it 3x a week for the final 3 weeks of a cycle and then begin PCT soon after. You keep yourself shutdown if you use it, so why would you run it post cycle? It should be used to prime your nuts for PCT.

 

[get456]

I run it 3x a week for the final 3 weeks of a cycle and then begin PCT soon after. You keep yourself shutdown if you use it, so why would you run it post cycle? It should be used to prime your nuts for PCT.

HCG does not shut you down... if you run too high of a dose it will shut down LH

but at reasonable theraputic dosing, it will stimulate and get things going

take a looky here

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=376177

good reference thread

this one too:
http://www.isteroids.com/steroids/Post%20Cycle%20Threapy%20(PCT).html

 

[drrman]

I personally think running HCG during a cycle is merely a waste of HCG and time. I just don't think it will aid in teh true recovery at the end of the cycle in ANY WAY. people may disagree but with all that shit you are taking the HCG is doing nothing but teasing your body, there is nothing constructive coming out of it in my oppinion.

now as for the cycle, why are you only running the propinate 2 weeks? why not run it say 6? Also i'd start the tren A at week 13......otherwise thats a pretty kick ass stack right there.. i'd have some letro on hand just in case gyno symptoms kick in