HCG correct administration and storage

[firstslovak]

I am close to PCT and I have
3 vials of 5,000 UI each.

How is it correct to take HCG after the cycles as PCT?

I have read so many different ways.

Someone says to take 5,000 in a single shot to be effective.
Someone else to take 250 daily DURING the cycle to keep the testes up.

Another question is,
in case of slower doses than 5,000 (since the vials are of 5,000 UI to be more correct are 2 vials each one with powder and one with water) the unused quantity can be stored or have to be trashed?

Thanks for help.

 

[miplank]

Reconsitute to whatever dosage you'll be taking. Don't use the solution that comes with it as that is for single use. You need to get some bac water.

You can store in the fridge for 30 days. after that throw away. Best to only mix up what you will use in the 30 days though.

as far as administration. Some people like to take throughout the cycle. Some like to take 1000 iu's a day for 5 days at the end of the cycle. Everyone seems to do it a lil different

 

[firstslovak]

Reconsitute to whatever dosage you'll be taking. Don't use the solution that comes with it as that is for single use. You need to get some bac water.

You can store in the fridge for 30 days. after that throw away. Best to only mix up what you will use in the 30 days though.

as far as administration. Some people like to take throughout the cycle. Some like to take 1000 iu's a day for 5 days at the end of the cycle. Everyone seems to do it a lil different

"BAC" water is available in pharmacy?

so i open the powder and mix just 1/5 of the powder to obtain 1,000 UI

what BAC stand for?

 

[miplank]

Go to syringes injections. There you will need to order two 10ml SEALED vials along with 30ml BAC water (or 20ml if that's all they carry). The stuff is cheap.

Take the liquid amp that comes with the powder and throw it away. You won't need it.

Take the syringe along with an 18g needle and draw up 1cc of the BAC water, open up the powdered amp and inject the 1cc of BAC water into the powdered amp. It will mix instantly. Now draw up the reconstituted HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - back into the same syringe.

Get the 10ml sealed vial and puncture the top of it with the needle and syringe. Push the liquid into the vial. The vials are sealed and sterile. Now draw up 9ml of BAC water and mix it with the first ml of reconstituted HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - . You're diluting the mixture here. You will now have a total of 1ml reconstituted HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - mixed with 9ml BAC water for a total of 10ml solution. 1 ML of solution will equal 500iu's (assuming you are using a 5000iu amp).

Don't mix anything until you're ready to use it and refrigerate after your first injection. It will last for 30 days.

 

[HAYEZ]

you have to mix it all at once...
first of all how long do you have until you start pct? hcg should not be used during pct...it should be used up until pct
say if you have 10 days left of cycle befoe pct...
i would do 500iu ed for 10 days
mix 1 5000iu amp with 1ml bac water
draw up 10 insulin needles with 10 iu
put all 10 in baggie in fridge
inject 10 iu ed intramuscular

 

[miplank]

you have to mix it all at once...
first of all how long do you have until you start pct? hcg should not be used during pct...it should be used up until pct
say if you have 10 days left of cycle befoe pct...
i would do 500iu ed for 10 days
mix 1 5000iu amp with 1ml bac water
draw up 10 insulin needles with 10 iu
put all 10 in baggie in fridge
inject 10 iu ed intramuscular

you can also inject sub-q if you wish.

 

[mwm5]

inject 10 iu ed intramuscular

i thought this was sub injections????

 

[miplank]

i thought this was sub injections????

you can do either or...

 

[Nelson Montana]

Next time, check out HMG. It rocks!

Also, you may want to consider adding UNLEASHED, POST CYCLE and Sustain. (All available at the EF store.) That'll help things along.

 

[firstslovak]

THANKS TO ALL

So,
i do from 1 ml 5,000 UI to 10 ml. UI

Each ml will be 500 UI

i use it daily.

The official paper of Pregnyl says "for intramuscolar injections"

Since you are so prepared I ask you what would you add to a PCT?
I have Thamoxy and Nolva.

I did 12 weeks cycle

400 mg week Equipose
400 mg. week Test En

 

[HAYEZ]

i thought this was sub injections????

intra releases faster..ive always done intra and everyone i know..only thing i shoot sub q is hgh

 

[HAYEZ]

THANKS TO ALL

So,
i do from 1 ml 5,000 UI to 10 ml. UI

Each ml will be 500 UI

i use it daily.

The official paper of Pregnyl says "for intramuscolar injections"

if you mix with 10ml of bac water yes you will have 500iu per ml...you really dont need that much bac water...you can do less...just makes it easier to shoot...just do the math to equal 500iu injections and your good to go

 

[firstslovak]

Since you are so prepared I ask you what would you add to a PCT?
I have Thamoxy and Nolva.

I did 12 weeks cycle

400 mg week Equipose
400 mg. week Test En

 

[Big_Joe]

It depends on the purity of the Hcg for doing a sub-Q or IM injection. Read the package insert. If you don't have the package insert look up the name of the drug on-line. This will tell you if you can use it sub-q or IM. To save you some work, if you have Choriomon by IBSA you can do that sub-q. IM will also work, for this drug, but if it's says to do IM it doesn't mean you can do sub-q.

You really don't need to jump through all the hoops that have been put out here. Just use the saline solution that came with the Hcg. Do all 5000 iu at once. Don't try to open the vial and mess with the powder. You will ruin it. Hcg is a fragile molecule. You shouldn't even shake it. You are supposed to swirl the vial to mix. Because you are near the end of your cycle do one vial, 5000 iu, once a week. So three weeks before the end of your cycle start the Hcg. The Hcg, at 5000 iu, will effect your testicles for about a week. That's why you do it once a week.

Don't worry about desensitization of your leydig cells. I posted a study in a different thread that had a bunch of guys doing 5000 iu three times a week for six months and they were not desensitized. You doing 5000 iu once a week for three weeks isn't going to be a problem.

 

[HAYEZ]

It depends on the purity of the Hcg for doing a sub-Q or IM injection. Read the package insert. If you don't have the package insert look up the name of the drug on-line. This will tell you if you can use it sub-q or IM. To save you some work, if you have Choriomon by IBSA you can do that sub-q. IM will also work, for this drug, but if it's says to do IM it doesn't mean you can do sub-q.

You really don't need to jump through all the hoops that have been put out here. Just use the saline solution that came with the Hcg. Do all 5000 iu at once. Don't try to open the vial and mess with the powder. You will ruin it. Hcg is a fragile molecule. You shouldn't even shake it. You are supposed to swirl the vial to mix. Because you are near the end of your cycle do one vial, 5000 iu, once a week. So three weeks before the end of your cycle start the Hcg. The Hcg, at 5000 iu, will effect your testicles for about a week. That's why you do it once a week.

Don't worry about desensitization of your leydig cells. I posted a study in a different thread that had a bunch of guys doing 5000 iu three times a week for six months and they were not desensitized. You doing 5000 iu once a week for three weeks isn't going to be a problem.

ummm care to post that link? 5000iu at once dosent sound like a very good idea

 

[HAYEZ]

Since you are so prepared I ask you what would you add to a PCT?
I have Thamoxy and Nolva.

I did 12 weeks cycle

400 mg week Equipose
400 mg. week Test En

i hsve no clue what thamoxy is
nova though i would do
60mg 7 days
40mg 14 days
sustain during pct
bit high on dose but it works,my last tren prop cycle was 10 weeks and my recpovery number my test level is close to the max upper range

 

[firstslovak]

i hsve no clue what thamoxy is
nova though i would do
60mg 7 days
40mg 14 days
sustain during pct
bit high on dose but it works,my last tren prop cycle was 10 weeks and my recpovery number my test level is close to the max upper range

I have NOLVA
AND
CLOMID

Now I am more confused.

500 a day or 5000 once?

I got the original Pregnyl
The papersheet says up to 3000 once a week,
not to day daily doses.

 

[HAYEZ]

I have NOLVA
AND
CLOMID

Now I am more confused.

500 a day or 5000 once?

I got the original Pregnyl
The papersheet says up to 3000 once a week,
not to day daily doses.

for years people have been doing 500iu injections...it has worked well...i dont know why this guy is saying 5000iu..i havent heard that even mentioned in years... ive done 6 cycles and recovered everytime with that protocal..my test levels are still 649 out of 827 which i just got tested last week..so it def works...
you can use the nolva but the clomid you dont need...
500iu ed until 2 days before you start pct...start the nolva and your good to go!

 

[Chrisco915]

I have been on HRT for a while and always have HCG incorporated through out the year. I add 2CCs to the 5000ui bottle....and inject a 20 on the 100 insulin syringe EOD.

 

[aquatic_glories]

sub-q shots are sooo easy.

in a few seconds , you are done. You can do it everywhere, everytime. Even you can't notice 2 seconds..

 

[access]

Several studies show that either method of use i.e sub-q or IM provides almost identical rises in serum test along with LH and FSH responses. Knowing this I would opt for subcutaneously every time. It is such a simpler and effortless route with a likely decrease in terms of a possible infection.

 

[Big_Joe]

ummm care to post that link? 5000iu at once dosent sound like a very good idea

Why don't you do a search. I have posted that link a number of times. There is a lot of mis-information on this topic posted on this forum that it's down right scary.

 

[HAYEZ]

Why don't you do a search. I have posted that link a number of times. There is a lot of mis-information on this topic posted on this forum that it's down right scary.

you the man dog!sorry i dont have the cool search feature...

 

[halfcenturian]

I have been on HRT for a while and always have HCG incorporated through out the year. I add 2CCs to the 5000ui bottle....and inject a 20 on the 100 insulin syringe EOD.

So you get 250 iu's HCG per injection. I just double that. I draw to the 40 mark and shoot 500 iu's twice a week. That seems to work well for me... my nuts are as big as kiwi's.

 

[miplank]

So you get 250 iu's HCG per injection. I just double that. I draw to the 40 mark and shoot 500 iu's twice a week. That seems to work well for me... my nuts are as big as kiwi's.

you just do that the last week or so of your cycle? or all the way through?

 

[bigmusclehead]

u can also use isotonic water or sterile water all can be found at the pharmacy with no problems

 

[halfcenturian]

you just do that the last week or so of your cycle? or all the way through?

I run 5000iu over 5 weeks. 500iu's twice a week or 1,000iu's/wk.

I have found that is the best protocol for me.

500oiu's HCG mixed with 2mL bac wa-wa to start.

Draw to 40 mark on 100 unit slin pin = 500iu's HCG.

Like butta ......

 

[access]

Have you tried same protocol at 250iu's halfcenturion? Just wondering is all. I basically do the same but at 250iu's and sometimes might add in one other inject a week dependant upon how i'm feeling but for most part 250iu's works great for me.

 

[halfcenturian]

There is(was)a Dr. Crisler, who was sort of a HRT Guru in Michigan a few years ago. He had a site on-line and did counseling and even patient memberships. He has done years of research on HRT over a wide spectrum of patient's. His protocol is basically the one I use, slight variation. You can try a google search if you are interested. I'm not saying his protocol is 100% accurate, but for me, it works. if it ain't broke don't fix it.

 

[Chrisco915]

So you get 250 iu's HCG per injection. I just double that. I draw to the 40 mark and shoot 500 iu's twice a week. That seems to work well for me... my nuts are as big as kiwi's.

I just do it that way to keep a rhythm......LOL........EOD keeps me 'involved'......and completely agree with the 'Kiwis' comment. Wife loves that.....LOL.

 

[access]

There is(was)a Dr. Crisler, who was sort of a HRT Guru in Michigan a few years ago. He had a site on-line and did counseling and even patient memberships. He has done years of research on HRT over a wide spectrum of patient's. His protocol is basically the one I use, slight variation. You can try a google search if you are interested. I'm not saying his protocol is 100% accurate, but for me, it works. if it ain't broke don't fix it.

Cool, thanks.

Will look into that.

 

[AAP]

I run 5000iu over 5 weeks. 500iu's twice a week or 1,000iu's/wk.

I have found that is the best protocol for me.

500oiu's HCG mixed with 2mL bac wa-wa to start.

Draw to 40 mark on 100 unit slin pin = 500iu's HCG.

Like butta ......

Why just 5 weeks why not do it the entire length of the cycle.

 

[halfcenturian]

Why just 5 weeks why not do it the entire length of the cycle.

You certainly CAN, but 1000iu's for 5 week works for me. I think less is more. Since I'm on it for life, if that does the job why do more?

 

[lookinfit75]

There is(was)a Dr. Crisler, who was sort of a HRT Guru in Michigan a few years ago. He had a site on-line and did counseling and even patient memberships. He has done years of research on HRT over a wide spectrum of patient's. His protocol is basically the one I use, slight variation. You can try a google search if you are interested. I'm not saying his protocol is 100% accurate, but for me, it works. if it ain't broke don't fix it.

Is this the guy .50 Cent? All Things Male - Center for Men's Health

 

[AAP]

You certainly CAN, but 1000iu's for 5 week works for me. I think less is more. Since I'm on it for life, if that does the job why do more?

are you running anti-e's or AIs at the same time?

 

[needtogetaas]

are you running anti-e's or AIs at the same time?

Fuck aap its not like you to be up this late. Whats keeping you up bro?

 

[AAP]

Fuck aap its not like you to be up this late. Whats keeping you up bro?

fucking trick taking a long ass time in the shower. had to wait for him to leave before going to bed. You would think that he never saw running water and herbal hair conditioner before.

my water bill is going to be atrocious because of this jack ass.

 

[needtogetaas]

fucking trick taking a long ass time in the shower. had to wait for him to leave before going to bed. You would think that he never saw running water and herbal hair conditioner before.

my water bill is going to be atrocious because of this jack ass.

lol