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HCG and NOLVA

SFMikeS

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I realize that HCG use is very controversial and everybody seems to have their own personal preferrences but most of the literature is geared toward off-cycle use and PCT. I understand HCG is suppressive and you should run nolva along side it to block this aspect but if you use HCG on cycle do you still need the nolva?
 
no. but some guys (lke me) get gyno-like tingling about a day after the pin of hcg. I prefer an ai because i wan the high estrogen blocked not just kept away from moobs,
 
I just started my first cycle of Test Cyp at 500mg a week and am using the protocols for PCT for 2008. I had the first shot of hcg on sunday night 250iu and another tonight. I am also taking 10mg of Nolva a day, now that I am on hcg AND that have started getting a tiny bit of gyno. It makes more sense to me keeping testes active during a cycle, which will help recovery alot from my understanding...but then again everyone is different and this is my first ride, so I dont know much in the big scheme of things.

goodluck.
 
you need an ai--nolva for a whole cycle is a waste and hard on the liver. a bit of gyno is not to be underestimasted, ignored, or treated with s SERM alone--your systemic estrogen is too high. period.
 
eddymerckx said:
you need an ai--nolva for a whole cycle is a waste and hard on the liver. a bit of gyno is not to be underestimasted, ignored, or treated with s SERM alone--your systemic estrogen is too high. period.


So.....what's your out look on this? What do you think should be done. ....Newbie here
 
eddymerkx

do you run the AI thru the course of the whole cycle? which compound and at what dose if you dont mind. Also do you do this because you know you are gyno prone or you feel it is neccessary with the use of on-cycle HCG?

I guess my original question was not so much what each person does so much as the compounds themselves. I understand that there will always be guys who have to run this or that because they have experience and know their body but I was just talking about the things you MUST do with regards to the compounds interacting with each other. Like no nolva with 19nor's. I always read that nolva and HCG should always go hand in hand but I am not sure if that applies to on-cycle use. One would use the nolva to help with the suppressive nature of HCG during PCT or off-cycle but you are already suppressed on-cycle so do you still need the nolva when administering HCG on-cycle?
 
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