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artificialaspirations said:
Total BS, alc. Bashing a product you've never tried is like me discounting the Anadrol 50 you think so highly of when I've never even touched the stuff...

For 40 bucks I've gained 30 lbs on my deadlift in less than 3 weeks and I'm not even finished yet. My goal is to pull at least 330 which will put me @ 2x bodyweight. Not much compared to actual steroids but it has worked for me.

Some people like myself have too much to lose (legally) by taking chances w/ real gear, but that is my decision at this point in my life.

All this bashing of products people are ignorant about is exactly what is wrong w/ this board. Of course its not gonna have steroid like effects because it is LEGAL. Don't expect too much from it and you won't be let down.

what's total bs is you thinking prohormones work...lol

Grow up kid.
 
Guess you dont read the poll results, thread about if prohormones work or not, MORE than not say they do work. You seem to have alot of time on your hands to come bash all these threads on prohormones yet you have no first hand experience with the product in question.

You spend an awfull lot of time in this section bashing things you have admitted to not knowing about, maybe you should stick to the AAS section instead of getting in the way in the sup section? Your input really isnt needed if you dont know anything about the topic of this thread.

We could have 100 people come in this thread and say Havoc is working for them and you would still say "Get the Juice, or you suck"...Looks like you telling anyone to grow up is a little hypocritical.

Thanks
-Legacy
 
What's also BS is you thinking you're something special. Get an original thought and and stop shadow posting the mods and mentors, its pathetic.
 
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DJLegacy2k1 said:
Guess you dont read the poll results, thread about if prohormones work or not, MORE than not say they do work. You seem to have alot of time on your hands to come bash all these threads on prohormones yet you have no first hand experience with the product in question.

You spend an awfull lot of time in this section bashing things you have admitted to not knowing about, maybe you should stick to the AAS section instead of getting in the way in the sup section? Your input really isnt needed if you dont know anything about the topic of this thread.

We could have 100 people come in this thread and say Havoc is working for them and you would still say "Get the Juice, or you suck"...Looks like you telling anyone to grow up is a little hypocritical.

Thanks
-Legacy

I've done prohormones. I've done 1-nor products and M-1-Test products...they're all the same: bs. Just a waste of money. Eventually, you'll both realise it and stop being so stubborn about it.
 
the_alcatraz said:
I've done prohormones. I've done 1-nor products and M-1-Test products...they're all the same: bs. Just a waste of money. Eventually, you'll both realise it and stop being so stubborn about it.


I think you are missing my stance. I think AAS and ProHormones have their place. Some Prohormones DO work and are good for quick legal bursts in training. If I cant or dont feel the need to look for illegal options, some prohormones will help get going towards goals. There is no need to bash a product or say things like "You are BS for thinking prohormones work...". Especially on a product with pretty good backing in reviews.

Now if I wanna gain 30lbs of muscle of course you need to start looking at a legit AAS cycle. Both Prohormones and AAS are tools in a much larger picture, and there are more than one road you can take to reaching your goals, keeping in mind that different people have different goals.

Bashing products because youre bored doesnt really help the forums in general. If you have first hand knowlege of the supplement in question and want to say that it didnt work, thats fine, but bashing just to bash is not helping anyone.

-Legacy
 
DJLegacy2k1 said:
JESUS, 6000 cals. They cant be all clean...lol

I get tired of eating when its only 3000 cals all clean.

-Legacy

lollool Slight exaggeration on my part but I do average between 4500-5500 kcal a day. I usually can eat more on non training days. I eat clean year round and my main source of protein is red meat and whole eggs. So I consume a lot of fat as well. I did the anabolic diet for nearly a year a few years back and I have always thrived on a lower carb diet. On non training days I don't eat over 200 grams of CHO. Upwards of 500 grams of Protein every day. Yum Yum
 
Is anyone getting insane back pumps from the Havoc. I thought I was going to die today doing bent over BB rows. I did add 20 pounds and a couple of reps to my work set :p I am already taking 10 grams of taurine and a gram of potassium every day. I think I am going to drop the Amp02 and just use Lipo preworkout. The pumps are just too much.
 
the_alcatraz said:
I've done prohormones. I've done 1-nor products and M-1-Test products...they're all the same: bs. Just a waste of money. Eventually, you'll both realise it and stop being so stubborn about it.

Lighten up Alc. You're a good bro and I value your opinion, but these guys opinions hold weight too. I have been running this stuff for 2 weeks and it is legit. It has actually worked beyond my expectations. You should give it a try. You might be surprised.
 
I know i dont konw as much as yous but its funny seeing how the person bashing havoc is the person who thought it was made by Muscle Tech
 
Ive been on Dermacrine/Phyto-Test for 3 weeks and this is my second week of Havoc..and yes it does work..and yes I indulged in real "gear" back in my early 20's..not that my opinion matters but It is more than obvious one of these 3 is working..at the beginning of my derma/phyto run I noticed more endurance..more libido..more pump and overall euphoria or sense of well being..I noticed I was recovering faster between workouts..the strength gains were very noticeable, just to give an example my incline barbell went from 205lbs for 6-8 to around 225lbs for 6-8 reps and has kept increasing into the 2 weeks I have been on Havoc and pressed 275 for 3 on my last chest workout last friday..and yes ive noticed noticeable fullness..hardness a little bit of added vascularity..although I was already pretty vascular already..at first on the dermacrine/phyto my body weight went from 240 at 6'3 to 228 but yet I could tell my muscles were growing ie strength gains and I looked bigger in the mirror..now 2 weeks into my Havoc my body weight has climbed back to 239ish..just my experience thus far haven't really invested the time in a detailed log dealing with specifics..but to hit it in a nutshell im eating 6 cans of tuna a day..4 medium sized potatoes..2 tblsp. of Natty PB..a gallon and a half of water..and assorted vegetables throughout the day..milk thistle..hawthorn berry..but anyway..imho..one of these is working..and as far as the havoc..ive heard that the real gains come in 3rd and 4th week..30mg ed..and yes there is "NO" substitute or equal to real gear..but its nice to have an alternative..

*If I could do it over yes I would have taken before pics..
 
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