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Have your ever driven high or drunk?

In high school and college I drove drunk alot. Like very weekend. After college I slowed it down some. The DUI rules have changed and they don't just let you off. I've been pulled over twice while drunk. Once in high school, got a speeding ticket and spelled my name wrong on the ticket. Halls saved me that night.

Second time was about 6 years ago. I was totally blitzed and had beer and vodka in the car. The cop had me and my girlfriend out of the car and about to do the test when he had a call on the radio. He told me to go home and took off with lights and sirens blaring. I could barely walk at that point.

Now that I have a family, it won't happen.
 
Did it really stoned to blockbuster once and it sucked. I was so scared because I couldn't focus properly, but I made it there safe. Driven home a few times while being semi drunk. Never full blown plastered. The few times I drove drunk I could handle it because I wasn't hammered but the one time I drove high I was super stoned and I hated it. I'll never do that again. I'd rather have my friend drive that can take it.
 
did it all the time when i was in the army. but as i got older and became a father i learned the error of my ways. have not done it in about 8 years and am planning on never doing it again.
 
There have been a few occasions on which I've driven drunk. Not so drunk that I was unable to make it where I was going, but I still shouldn't have taken the risk.

There have been times I've driven and been completely sobered up, but if I was pulled over and asked to do a breathalyzer I may have still failed as the alcohol may still have been in my system.

Those times were few and far between - I pretty much never drive under the influence. That said, I don't drink that frequently or heavily either. When I'm living at home and going out and know that I'm going to be drinking I usually get someone to drop me off/pick me up if they are able to, or I take a cab. Even if I know I won't be drinking so much that I wouldn't be able to make it home, I get a ride or take a cab because if I got pulled over I'd still be screwed.
 
ive done both quite frequently. i dont really think driving high is a big deal though. ive done it and been pulled over by a cop, red eyed and completely reaking and only got a warning. i think its pretty hard to prove if you are high and driving, cause how do they know you didnt get high 5 hours prior and just stink?

i do hate driving drunk, yet i do it still. i try to be pretty smart about and only drive home after 3am. im usually 'legally' drunk, but not actually drunk, by my standards.
 
I drove drunk once about 7 years ago and I swore I'd never do it again...I haven't.
 
i drove once after drinking a wine cooler
thats about it, i dont drink much
 
redshirt27se said:
ive done both quite frequently. i dont really think driving high is a big deal though. ive done it and been pulled over by a cop, red eyed and completely reaking and only got a warning. i think its pretty hard to prove if you are high and driving, cause how do they know you didnt get high 5 hours prior and just stink?

i do hate driving drunk, yet i do it still. i try to be pretty smart about and only drive home after 3am. im usually 'legally' drunk, but not actually drunk, by my standards.
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you would be surprised what a trained, experienced dwi officer could determine just by observing you and speaking with you for a minute or so.
 
i grew up in a time where if you didnt drive drunk, the person who was driving you was drunk. so it kind of desentized me to the whole thing.

you always hear about the kids who drive drunk and slam into telephone polls going 100mph. i dont think i've ever met someone who is that dumb. everytime ive driven or someone ive been with has we've always made sure we drove 24mph in a 25mph, even when no ones on the road.

i think most people are more scared of getting an oui/dui than getting into an accident.
 
bb079 said:
you would be surprised what a trained, experienced dwi officer could determine just by observing you and speaking with you for a minute or so.
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trust me i know. theres no point to lie because they all know.

im pretty sure the cop knew i was high, but didnt do anything. i think it was more that he couldnt do anything. what i meant was actually proving it, as far in law. i think anyone here could pick out someone who's high.
 
redshirt27se said:
i grew up in a time where if you didnt drive drunk, the person who was driving you was drunk. so it kind of desentized me to the whole thing.

you always hear about the kids who drive drunk and slam into telephone polls going 100mph. i dont think i've ever met someone who is that dumb. everytime ive driven or someone ive been with has we've always made sure we drove 24mph in a 25mph, even when no ones on the road.

i think most people are more scared of getting an oui/dui than getting into an accident.[/QUOTE]

and that should tell you just how selfish people are. people who drive intoxicated are not thinking straight. even though dwi is considered a victimless crime, when you look at the stats you will see that it is not. case in point, last year some dumbass thought he could drive home from the club even though later tests showed his bac at over .25%. he ended up killing himself and two other people after he traveled left of center, and hit another vehicle head on. its not worth it.
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redshirt27se said:
trust me i know. theres no point to lie because they all know.

im pretty sure the cop knew i was high, but didnt do anything. i think it was more that he couldnt do anything. what i meant was actually proving it, as far in law. i think anyone here could pick out someone who's high.
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if a cop believes you are operating a vehicle while under the influence of alcohol or drugs you can b arrested. most cops hate making these arrests b/c of the paperwork involved. believe me, cops can can arrest you and make you as intoxicated as they want when they write their reports. i know its shadey shit, but thats the world we live in.
 
bb079 said:
if a cop believes you are operating a vehicle while under the influence of alcohol or drugs you can b arrested. most cops hate making these arrests b/c of the paperwork involved. believe me, cops can can arrest you and make you as intoxicated as they want when they write their reports. i know its shadey shit, but thats the world we live in.
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very true. i think cops look the other way on stoned drivers a lot. its like 10x better than driving drunk.
 
redshirt27se said:
very true. i think cops look the other way on stoned drivers a lot. its like 10x better than driving drunk.
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i dont know if i would either is better than the other. both affect vision, motor skills and reaction time, etc. as far as the police looking the other way, i guess that is what they call officer discretion.
 
Both, it's extremely common here as there are no breathalyzers, urine or blood tests. Even if a policeman did enforce one they could be bribed for $2. There is the token police checkpoint but they can usually be seen drinking whiskey in full view of everyone by 9 in the evening or much earlier out of town. The police are a joke basically and it's easy to abuse the rules.

Will say that if I don't drink and drive often and if I've had more than a couple I will give the keys to someone else.
 
I used to before I was married. Up until 2 wks before the wife joined me overseas I would black out every weekend & drive all over Hell's half acre. Well, the Black Forest anyways.
I got caught once, but my mates stole the car while I was in the guard shack, so they had no ID on it, so they couldn't charge me.
I'm just lucky/thankful I never killed anyone, or me.
 
Well, I made this thread today because last night I took my jeep out with my buddy to do a little backroad driving and offroading while hittin' the bong. Not very bright, I know, but I've drvien high before and can handle it with ease...it doesnt affect your motor skills or judgement so the only thing that will really make you fuck up is being to nervous or paranoia and crashing out of clumsiness. It was such a trip though, we were driving on all these feilds and backroads and around these wrecker and dirt pit areas and we almost ran over two deer, a wolf and surprisingly, a hobo. He must have been one of those uncommon "one with mother earth" rural hobos's.
 
ceasar989 said:
Well, I made this thread today because last night I took my jeep out with my buddy to do a little backroad driving and offroading while hittin' the bong. Not very bright, I know, but I've drvien high before and can handle it with ease...it doesnt affect your motor skills or judgement so the only thing that will really make you fuck up is being to nervous or paranoia and crashing out of clumsiness. It was such a trip though, we were driving on all these feilds and backroads and around these wrecker and dirt pit areas and we almost ran over two deer, a wolf and surprisingly, a hobo. He must have been one of those uncommon "one with mother earth" rural hobos's.
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i just found out my friend got an oui last night after a night of drinking with him.
 
bb079 said:
did it all the time when i was in the army. but as i got older and became a father i learned the error of my ways. have not done it in about 8 years and am planning on never doing it again.
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Drinking and driving is a competitive sport in the Army. I used to do it all the time, so did 80% of the soldiers I know....

two thumbs: yellow line and white line.

Where are you from in LA?
 
I have done it more than I would like to admitt. I drove high once and it was the worst experience I've ever had. I get extremely paranoid when I would smoke, the whole drive felt like an anxiety attack. Now I am reformed
 
I didn't drink until college and while I was there drank daily. But I lived on campus at a little school so I never had to drive. Once I had alcohol poisoning it was never quite the same for me. So by the time I wsa old enough to drink I didn't drink as much.

I've driven really drunk once. That's it.

High is a different story entirely. Things happened that I have no idea how I even survived and make me cringe to think about. But I've been off drugs pretty much for the last 2 years (exceptions exist but they weren't addiction use).
 
About 5,000 times. Basically every weekend/day throughout highschool and college. College was real bad. Every time I drink I black out, no matter how much I drink. Every morning was the same routine - wake up, look outside for my car, then call all my friends and find out if anyone knows where I parked it lastnight. There were times I didn't find it for days. The worst times? I actually hit my friend who was walking down the street and didn't even know I did it until the passenger in my car told me. ANother time I actually 100% passed/blacked out while driving my car. All I remember is coming out of it and I was behind the wheel while my car was moving, the door was wide open and I was hanging out puking. I look up, expecting to be in a bathroom or something and isntead I was driving down the street. The final straw was when I crashed on Route 95 with 2 of my best friends on the car. It was like a NASCAR wipe out. I was in the far right lane of a 5-lane highway and just lost control on a major curve (Thurbers Ave curve for anyone that drives thru Providence), Car did a 180 so I was facing the wrong way and slid sideways across the 5 lanes and slammed into the median barrier, ending up facing the wrong way in the left lane. Everyone was fine, amazingly. Over $6,000 damage to the ride tho.

Those were just the nights I remember. I've been pulled over many many times and somehow always got away with it. I remember at least 2 times when a cop has looked at me and said something to the effect of: "Wow, you are really fucked up" and then let me go. It makes me feel very lucky and very ashamed at the same time. I don't really drink anymore and definitely don't drink and drive when drunk anymore. I am not kidding either - I did this at least 1 night a week in highschool and at least 4 nights a week in college. Every night completely blacked out. Pretty pathetic
 
KillahBee said:
About 5,000 times. Basically every weekend/day throughout highschool and college. College was real bad. Every time I drink I black out, no matter how much I drink. Every morning was the same routine - wake up, look outside for my car, then call all my friends and find out if anyone knows where I parked it lastnight. There were times I didn't find it for days. The worst times? I actually hit my friend who was walking down the street and didn't even know I did it until the passenger in my car told me. ANother time I actually 100% passed/blacked out while driving my car. All I remember is coming out of it and I was behind the wheel while my car was moving, the door was wide open and I was hanging out puking. I look up, expecting to be in a bathroom or something and isntead I was driving down the street. The final straw was when I crashed on Route 95 with 2 of my best friends on the car. It was like a NASCAR wipe out. I was in the far right lane of a 5-lane highway and just lost control on a major curve (Thurbers Ave curve for anyone that drives thru Providence), Car did a 180 so I was facing the wrong way and slid sideways across the 5 lanes and slammed into the median barrier, ending up facing the wrong way in the left lane. Everyone was fine, amazingly. Over $6,000 damage to the ride tho.

Those were just the nights I remember. I've been pulled over many many times and somehow always got away with it. I remember at least 2 times when a cop has looked at me and said something to the effect of: "Wow, you are really fucked up" and then let me go. It makes me feel very lucky and very ashamed at the same time. I don't really drink anymore and definitely don't drink and drive when drunk anymore. I am not kidding either - I did this at least 1 night a week in highschool and at least 4 nights a week in college. Every night completely blacked out. Pretty pathetic
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a Perfect citizen, if you ask me
 
pintoca said:
a Perfect citizen, if you ask me
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As I said, I am not proud of it. I thought a lot about how I could have killed a million people including my best friends. Fucking idiotic.
 
I have driven drunk countless times. Been pulled over 2x & beat the rap both times. For some reason my spidey sense told me to pull over on a ramp when I saw a cop up the road. I failed the test and blew a 17. But when it got to court the cop admitted he never saw me driving the car and it was possible that another person was driving and fled the scene. The other time the cop new me from my athletic achievements. He drove me home & let me off.

I usually don't do it anymore unless i'm drunk & it's late & I make a late night booty run.
 
I have been Bad ONCE. I remember driving down a 2 way road and out of no where the 2 way road now had 4 lanes.
So I had to drive home with one eye closed just so things looked normal.

The bathroom floor was my best friend that night. And after that night I took a vowl that I would never do that again!!!
 
I think I posted once that I was on a whole ton of versed. I don't remember most of that day. I remember driving to where I was going and not much after that. I woke up hours and hours later off-roading with my taurus. I went from a right lane northbound to facing the wrong way in a right lane southbound through a huge grass median. I can't even remember how I got home either. Scary stuff.
 
Raina said:
I think I posted once that I was on a whole ton of versed. I don't remember most of that day. I remember driving to where I was going and not much after that. I woke up hours and hours later off-roading with my taurus. I went from a right lane northbound to facing the wrong way in a right lane southbound through a huge grass median. I can't even remember how I got home either. Scary stuff.
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OMG!!!!!!! It's a good thing you don't drink any more! Wow!! you were out of control! LOL

The one bad night I had was enough for me! and was no where close to the kinda night you had!
 
Raina said:
I think I posted once that I was on a whole ton of versed. I don't remember most of that day. I remember driving to where I was going and not much after that. I woke up hours and hours later off-roading with my taurus. I went from a right lane northbound to facing the wrong way in a right lane southbound through a huge grass median. I can't even remember how I got home either. Scary stuff.
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I don´t drive at all. Ive woken up and not known what country I was in though, and I´ve woken up sleeping on a pile of sand at a roadworks site in town. It´s classy.
 
Did it in high school and am surprised I am still alive. I mean we got silly drunk and drove around. And the cops would just say it is time for you to go home. Don't drive drunk now it the laws are to severe not worth it. Plus after riding a bike I know I don't like drunks on the road so I ain't going to be a hypocrite.
 
KillahBee said:
As I said, I am not proud of it. I thought a lot about how I could have killed a million people including my best friends. Fucking idiotic.
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Don't be needlessly ashamed. Don't let the propaganda of mass media and special interest lobbyists shame you.

Think about it: if you drove blacked out with regularity, and did no real harm to anyone, then how bad can drinking and driving be?



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I do it all the time, I am not proud of myself, but here is no other way for me to get home. The cabs here take over a hour to get you and by then you are a ice cube .....
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Don't be needlessly ashamed. Don't let the propaganda of mass media and special interest lobbyists shame you.

Think about it: if you drove blacked out with regularity, and did no real harm to anyone, then how bad can drinking and driving be?



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lmfao , now that you put it that way its not that bad
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Don't be needlessly ashamed. Don't let the propaganda of mass media and special interest lobbyists shame you.

Think about it: if you drove blacked out with regularity, and did no real harm to anyone, then how bad can drinking and driving be?

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The worst thing was that I was a very good drunk driver. If I was terrible than I would have stopped. But I was the exception. And the the exception got into a bad accident that could have EASILY killed/injured several people he cared about.
 
Drinking and driving is not a good idea. But if you believe the propaganda out there, it;s like there is an ongoing battle between Hitler, Stalin and DWI for "worst thing ever".

Give me a fucking break. Every soldier I know, including me, used to drive drunk like 4 nights a week. Nothing ever happened.

FACTS:

According to NHTSA, the rate of alcohol related fatalities in about the same as speeding related fatalities. And you should see the statistical hoops the NHTSA jumps through to call something "alcohol related". Here is an example:

A sober designated driver is driving home three drunk friends at 3AM. They are struck by an SUV being driven by a sober driver,who falls asleep and crosses the center line, striking the car with the 4 people in it.

All 5 are killed.

NHTSA would record this as 5 alcohol related fatalities, when in fact alcohol had nothing to do with it. The intoxicated passengers were being "responsible" and wound up as statistcal fodder in a stupid propaganda campaign.

Accurate stats are almost impossible to find. Misleading propaganda is everywhere. here is another example:

NHTSA considers all traffic fatalities "alcohol-related"if anyone invovled (even a passenger) has a BAC of .02. .02 is nothing - some of you have that now I am sure.

Drunk driving: stupid, but, not that bad.
 
I disagree Matt. I think it's important to challenge yourself and driving super drunk is WAY more tricky than driving sober.

Goals are important. Dare to dream.

Some non-chemical related driving can probably be dangerous too but it's even more fun.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Drinking and driving is not a good idea. But if you believe the propaganda out there, it;s like there is an ongoing battle between Hitler, Stalin and DWI for "worst thing ever".

Give me a fucking break. Every soldier I know, including me, used to drive drunk like 4 nights a week. Nothing ever happened.

FACTS:

According to NHTSA, the rate of alcohol related fatalities in about the same as speeding related fatalities. And you should see the statistical hoops the NHTSA jumps through to call something "alcohol related". Here is an example:

A sober designated driver is driving home three drunk friends at 3AM. They are struck by an SUV being driven by a sober driver,who falls asleep and crosses the center line, striking the car with the 4 people in it.

All 5 are killed.

NHTSA would record this as 5 alcohol related fatalities, when in fact alcohol had nothing to do with it. The intoxicated passengers were being "responsible" and wound up as statistcal fodder in a stupid propaganda campaign.

Accurate stats are almost impossible to find. Misleading propaganda is everywhere. here is another example:

NHTSA considers all traffic fatalities "alcohol-related"if anyone invovled (even a passenger) has a BAC of .02. .02 is nothing - some of you have that now I am sure.

Drunk driving: stupid, but, not that bad.
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But let's also point out that legally drunk is something around a couple beers, which is nowhere near enough to really impair most drivers. I am not talking about drunk driving in that sense, I am talking about obliterated driving, which is what I have always done
 
legally drunk.. yeah I am sure I have inadvertently once or twice.. never plastered.

high.. not that I can remember specifically.. I really don't feel like crashing, but I have had friends that smoked while driving.. especially on long road trips, and claim it doesn't affect them at all.
 
KillahBee said:
But let's also point out that legally drunk is something around a couple beers,
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2 beers??


dont think so...not unless you are talking chugging on empty and weighing 100 pounds
 
KillahBee said:
then what does it equal, Mr. Wizard? a 12-pack?
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Here you go Nancy:


Studies have shown that it would take an average 170-pound male five drinks within a two-hour period to reach a level of .08, while a 137-pound woman would reach this level with three drinks in two hours.


So - based on the 5 drinks/170 pounds...it might take you 2 and a half.
 
The Shadow said:
Here you go Nancy:


Studies have shown that it would take an average 170-pound male five drinks within a two-hour period to reach a level of .08, while a 137-pound woman would reach this level with three drinks in two hours.


So - based on the 5 drinks/170 pounds...it might take you 2 and a half.
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Fine, 5 over 2 hours. Once again, nowhere near what I was referring to as "drunk driving". Let's have a leg press comp right fucking now
 
KillahBee said:
Fine, 5 over 2 hours. Once again, nowhere near what I was referring to as "drunk driving". Let's have a leg press comp right fucking now
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Go change outta your skirt
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Drinking and driving is a competitive sport in the Army. I used to do it all the time, so did 80% of the soldiers I know....

two thumbs: yellow line and white line.

Where are you from in LA?
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those were the days. im in pineville (central louisiana).
 
bb079 said:
those were the days. im in pineville (central louisiana).
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LOL those were indeed the days. I ran into an Army friend a while back, some good stories about falling out of the car when we parked because we were so intoxicated.

Pineville? Don't really know it. I lived in Crowley for a while.
 
ceasar989 said:
If you have, do you do it often?

If not, are you really strict with yourself about this?
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From Sophmore year up until I was 21...

After my first felony for attempted murder I kinda toned it down a notch.
:)
 
Lestat said:
legally drunk.. yeah I am sure I have inadvertently once or twice.. never plastered.

high.. not that I can remember specifically.. I really don't feel like crashing, but I have had friends that smoked while driving.. especially on long road trips, and claim it doesn't affect them at all.
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dude you are missing out if you dont get high on long car trips. it makes them so much tolerable.
 
They should raise the legal limit to 1.5 bac and if they blow it on the spot and are higher they should put a bullet it in their head on the spot. Problem solved instead of 25000 murders on the road a year or whatever
 
The Shadow said:
Here you go Nancy:


Studies have shown that it would take an average 170-pound male five drinks within a two-hour period to reach a level of .08, while a 137-pound woman would reach this level with three drinks in two hours.


So - based on the 5 drinks/170 pounds...it might take you 2 and a half.
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i put down much more than 5 drinks in a 2 hour period.
 
Used to, in my 20's. drunk, high, or drunk and high. once went on a 700km road trip with two friends, we sat in the front drinking beer and tequila, smoking dope and dropping pills. booze was the most distructive combination with driving, second would be if marijuana was in the mix, then the next worst driving was on magic mushrooms.
 
BrothaBill said:
They should raise the legal limit to 1.5 bac and if they blow it on the spot and are higher they should put a bullet it in their head on the spot. Problem solved instead of 25000 murders on the road a year or whatever
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AMA recommended .15 when this all hit the fan.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Drinking and driving is not a good idea. But if you believe the propaganda out there, it;s like there is an ongoing battle between Hitler, Stalin and DWI for "worst thing ever".

Give me a fucking break. Every soldier I know, including me, used to drive drunk like 4 nights a week. Nothing ever happened.

FACTS:

According to NHTSA, the rate of alcohol related fatalities in about the same as speeding related fatalities. And you should see the statistical hoops the NHTSA jumps through to call something "alcohol related". Here is an example:

A sober designated driver is driving home three drunk friends at 3AM. They are struck by an SUV being driven by a sober driver,who falls asleep and crosses the center line, striking the car with the 4 people in it.

All 5 are killed.

NHTSA would record this as 5 alcohol related fatalities, when in fact alcohol had nothing to do with it. The intoxicated passengers were being "responsible" and wound up as statistcal fodder in a stupid propaganda campaign.

Accurate stats are almost impossible to find. Misleading propaganda is everywhere. here is another example:

NHTSA considers all traffic fatalities "alcohol-related"if anyone invovled (even a passenger) has a BAC of .02. .02 is nothing - some of you have that now I am sure.

Drunk driving: stupid, but, not that bad.
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Furthermore, the drunk drivers who ARE causing major accidents are the ones who are well over the old legal limits, maybe twice the old legal limit. Reducing BAC % tolerance isn't going to make anyone safer. 0.12 was a good legal limit, bringing it down to 0.10 or 0.08 or 0.06 isn't going to do anything about the 0.25 dudes who are running into school busses.

This issue is another example of the victory of emotion over logic.
 
Mr. dB said:
Furthermore, the drunk drivers who ARE causing major accidents are the ones who are well over the old legal limits, maybe twice the old legal limit. Reducing BAC % tolerance isn't going to make anyone safer. 0.12 was a good legal limit, bringing it down to 0.10 or 0.08 or 0.06 isn't going to do anything about the 0.25 dudes who are running into school busses.

This issue is another example of the victory of emotion over logic.
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Correct - reliable data indicates that the proportion of risk / BAC is low until about .22 - .24. This is when the problems start.
 
I calculated once before I quit drinking at age 30
about 2500 times
 
BrothaBill said:
They should raise the legal limit to 1.5 bac and if they blow it on the spot and are higher they should put a bullet it in their head on the spot. Problem solved instead of 25000 murders on the road a year or whatever
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let's develop a standardized field formula
we are not measuring BAC,we measure ability to operate a motor vehicle
after all collisions you administer the accepted field test
so grandma might get shot on the spot
 
Mr. dB said:
Furthermore, the drunk drivers who ARE causing major accidents are the ones who are well over the old legal limits, maybe twice the old legal limit. Reducing BAC % tolerance isn't going to make anyone safer. 0.12 was a good legal limit, bringing it down to 0.10 or 0.08 or 0.06 isn't going to do anything about the 0.25 dudes who are running into school busses.

This issue is another example of the victory of emotion over logic.
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it wont make us any safer, but thats not really the point. it saves money/time/effort and helps people avoid the huge repurcussions for blowing .01 over the limit.

you do realize an oui/dwi/owi etc in most states pretty much bends you over and directly penetrates you.
 
I can't believe this thread hasn't had the requisite "My uncle/brother/sister/daughter/niece was killed by a drunk driver, I can't believe you people are defending them".
 
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I can't believe this thread hasn't had the requisite "My uncle/brother/sister/daughter/niece was killed by a drunk driver, I can't believe you people are defending them".
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Because the propaganda war has been so effective in demonizing drunk drivers that people who did it are ashamed.

You don't have to do anything wrong or harm anyone to be demonized. Drunk drivers are now the discussion equivalent of child molesters.
 
everything is cool until somebody dies

then is time for all the "Oh, I wish I could make time go back., and blah blah blah blah"

What is irritating is that it seems the drunk/high driver is not always the one that dies, but the one that walks away? wtf is with that?
 
pintoca said:
everything is cool until somebody dies

then is time for all the "Oh, I wish I could make time go back., and blah blah blah blah"

What is irritating is that it seems the drunk/high driver is not always the one that dies, but the one that walks away? wtf is with that?
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They're not going to feel guilty if they're dead, are they? Not saying that it's meant to be like that, but if they died, it would just be another idiot dead.
 
Still do. Liquored up, not high. Don't smoke dope any more.

Hell, went out over the weedend. Did a little county cruising with a couple high school buddies. Hit every dirt and mud road in three counties almost. Went through three abandoned houses in the middle of no-where and did a little F.A.D.D.'ing.

Farmers
Against
Drunk
Drivers.

They don't like it when you go through their fields.

It's all fun. When you are out in the middle of no-where, and not being "too" dumb, I don't see the problem.

OH, and once I take the film in, I have pic's of a friend in two of the houses. I now get all pictures on cd too, so i'll post up the good times.

Hey, it's the only thing to do, other than play music out here.

Whiskey
 
Whiskey said:
Still do. Liquored up, not high. Don't smoke dope any more.

Hell, went out over the weedend. Did a little county cruising with a couple high school buddies. Hit every dirt and mud road in three counties almost. Went through three abandoned houses in the middle of no-where and did a little F.A.D.D.'ing.

Farmers
Against
Drunk
Drivers.

They don't like it when you go through their fields.

It's all fun. When you are out in the middle of no-where, and not being "too" dumb, I don't see the problem.

OH, and once I take the film in, I have pic's of a friend in two of the houses. I now get all pictures on cd too, so i'll post up the good times.

Hey, it's the only thing to do, other than play music out here.

Whiskey
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country cruisin is the best
 
pintoca said:
everything is cool until somebody dies

then is time for all the "Oh, I wish I could make time go back., and blah blah blah blah"

What is irritating is that it seems the drunk/high driver is not always the one that dies, but the one that walks away? wtf is with that?
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That's called propaganda. In 56% of DUI fatalities, it is the driver who is killed.

As far as the stuff about making time go back - the same would be said in any sober-driver accident, mechanical accident, industrial accident, etc.
 
I've had 2 OWI's and I will never drive with any liquor in my system. I got screwed so bad on 2 the third will be prison.
 
What's your take on knowing that your friends are going to drive? Not to long ago, I almost got into a fight with my buddy because I told him I wasnt gonna let him drive. I know it's his decision and has free will to do what he wants (with his own car too), I'm not letting him/you drive for two reasons. One, you're obviously not thinking properly and are in no place to think you can make rational decisions, therefore I'm not gonna let you go out to your potential death. Secondly, and this is one thing that is more a problem with me rather than them, if for one second I feel like I am in the position to prevent someone from driving and dont and they drive and die, my conscience will never leave me alone.
 
ceasar989 said:
What's your take on knowing that your friends are going to drive? Not to long ago, I almost got into a fight with my buddy because I told him I wasnt gonna let him drive. I know it's his decision and has free will to do what he wants (with his own car too), I'm not letting him/you drive for two reasons. One, you're obviously not thinking properly and are in no place to think you can make rational decisions, therefore I'm not gonna let you go out to your potential death. Secondly, and this is one thing that is more a problem with me rather than them, if for one second I feel like I am in the position to prevent someone from driving and dont and they drive and die, my conscience will never leave me alone.
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most of my friends drive drunk. if someones stumbling over drunk, then thats a different story, but we are usually pretty fucked up when we drive. just gotta drive slow and you're straight. i'm not friends with those retards who feel that they need to drive faster when they're drunk than when they are sober.
 
I've driven under the influence of the following:

Weed
Mushrooms
LSD
Opium
Painkillers
Alcohol
Amphetamines

The mushrooms and LSD were definitely the hardest. I had to convince myself that the sky strobing different colors was alright and that I was not hearing two songs at the same time coming from my radio. The sounds my car made that night were so unusual to me I was a bit concerned as well. I made it home after repeating the word "focus" in my head till I got home.

That was all high school, and I did end up getting a DUI right after high school.

In retrospect its never a good idea to drive drunk, no matter how much you gotta be somewhere else. The responsibility of potentially taking other's lives and your own is not worth one bad decision. While I agree with matt that the severity of DUI fatalities is way over stated, I could never condone someone doing it again. The law will also fuck you, 12k on a lawyer and the law will still find a way to stick its hand in your pocket and extort money from you. But at least my license was never suspended. (I benefitted from bureaucratic errors on the state's part)
 
Just like the danger with driving isn't the good driver, but the unpredictability/stupidity of the bad driver.
The danger with the drinking driver isn't strictly with his operational abilities, but his inability to react quickly to the bad drivers on the road.
 
I may laugh (with a grimace) about past drunk driving infractions, but I wouldn't do it again. The risks to life and liberty are just too great.
 
4everhung said:
let's develop a standardized field formula
we are not measuring BAC,we measure ability to operate a motor vehicle
after all collisions you administer the accepted field test
so grandma might get shot on the spot
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Its all too subjective, there can never be a correctly and efficient way to standardize level of intoxication to that level without a neurologist and EEG and similar equipment present.
You accept the facts and the regulations set forth and deal with the consequences.
The fact that they lower the limit to .08 BAC means they catch alot more social drinkers.
To have a dwi means nothing anymore, 2 million folks get them per year and 80% of the population admits to having driven drunk in the previous year making a lot of liars out of those on this thread.
I just happen to be in the minority on the DanD thing for awhile, but fuck, how else do you get home from a bar??
Just dont over do it. If a cop wants to be an ass he will.
 
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