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Has anyone EVER had success with a dbol only cycle?

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It seems like EVERYONE is getting on me (and probably for good reason) because of my dbol only cycle I'm about to start. I don't understand, I've gained and kept before on a dbol only cycle, why wouldn't I now?

Is there anyone who's ever had success on a dbol only cycle? It sems like everyone here doesn't think it's possible to keep your gains even with Clomid.

I plan on doing 35 mg. dbol ed for 5 weeks, also taking Clomid the very next day (wk 6) for 300 mg. dy1, 100 mg. for 10 dys, 50 mg. for 10 dys. I also intend on taking Nolvadex straight through even if I don't see any signs of gyno. I will be taking 10 mg. nolva all the way from day 1 till my Clomid therapy is done.

And the reason, I cant take any injectables:

1) I live with my parents (I'm 22, I know that's bad!) Therefore that's hard to hide.

2) I have NO idea how to inject. The only way I could do that is meet with one of my juice head buddies once a week but all of our schedules are hectic and sometimes I don't see them for weeks.

3) I am looking to put on a quick 20-30 pounds in 2 months. I don't plan on doing a cycle after this for quite some time. I know dbol acts quick and effective.

4) I DEFINITLY can't take Deca or any drug that would stay in my system for a long period of time because I will POSSIBLY be drug tested later this year for roids (I don't wanna get into why). I know dbol leaves quick (2-3 months).

So back to my original question, anyone ever had a good experience with dbol only?
 
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it depends what your goals are. I have done a dbol only cycle. I gained a lot of muscle and a lot of strength. It made it impossible for me to shoot a load though. Hey, I ma be wrong, but i think arnold has done his share of dbol onl cycles. he looks pretty buff to me....
 
I hear ya bro. But 20-30 lbs keepable on a dbol only cycle is gonna be tough! Especially at 35mg a day.

I gained 10lbs on a dbol only, I had Armidex and clomid and I seem to of kept the weight.
I did a 6 week cycle of 35mg e/d
.25 Armidex e/d
Milk Thistle
ALA


Don't drink and take care of your liver! It will work better then nothing.
 
20-30 keepable lbs in two months sounds like a stretch. I do think bdol only cycle is great. Dbol and test is awsome. Dbol, test, and fina is SUBLIME.
 
bro first off taking dbol only is not a fuckin cycle, second all your gonna get off dbol is some water weight and some strength, and plus what is gonna happen is when you take the dbol you will pump up, but when you go home and go to bed and wake up your gonna wake up flat as hell, third you will lose probably 40% of the weight you gain, and next if you want to take steroids do the shit right, dbol only is not a cycle, like I said the only thing your gonna gain is a pump when you take the pill, after that your not gonna get shit, if you want to do a cylce this is a fuckin cycle here:

dbol
sustanon
deca
equipoise
test cypionate
finaplix

this is a fuckin cycle bro get the shit right!
 
CN1,
Down boy. Dbol only may not be a cycle, but I will pack on the pounds. And even if you don't keep it all you should be able to keep at least half, which is better than nothing.

dbol
sustanon
deca
equipoise
test cypionate
finaplix

That's a big variety, but if you need that much than so be it. I have made great gains on Dbol only. I do perfer to add some Test and maybe even some Tren, but New Jack doesn't have those options available to him. This board is for sharing info not ignorant bashing.
 
is it getting hot in here or is it just me...

hey bro, if you got decent results with a dbol only cycle, then more power to ya. Dbol doesn't produce ONLY water as some would have you believe. It definately puts on some muscle. Arimidex with your dbol, like 69 did, may be a good idea so you don't feel like crap when you deflate at the end of your cycle.
 
The issue is whether the amount you gain (at the end of the day a minimal amount) is worth the exposure to the side effects and the body's increased tolerance to gear. This board is pretty clear on its opinion of taking dbol only. That said, I've done this in the past and you will get stronger, but over the weeks following the dbol, the strength will subside. As long as you know what you're doing, go ahead.
 
OK Bro here is my take on it for what it is worth.

Dbol makes you hold water and hence you ''bloat'' and look big. If you get your diet, training and rest right then yes you will put on some quality muscle (not as much as a ''true'' cycle e.g. Decca, Sus & Dbol) but you will put on quality muscle.
Now when you come off the Dbol it is essential to complete Clomid therapy so as to restart your natural test production but you will also lose the extra water you are holding and the majority of the increased strength. You WILL however retain the quality muscle you have gained but with losing the water you do look physically smaller than when you were holding the water. So the statement ''you will lose all your gains'' is IMO false you will just be seeing the quality gains underneath the water.

Remeber whatever cycle / AS you take you need to get diet, training and rest correct as they are not muscle in a tab or amp.

As i have said this is my opinion and hope it helps with your understanding as it is your business if you do or do not want to inject and as you say that depends on your goals and your circumstances.

Wrongun!
 
sure you can gain and keep on a dbol only cycle. i think you shopuld pyramid slightly at the end tho. if you can inject why not throw in another oral or transdermal? 20-30lbs is a very big strech nd you will lose some but not all. this is a myth that started becuse people who dont kno shit about roids usually take dbol becuase of the same reasons you do. then they dont take any clomid and wonder why all there gains disappeared. if i were you nd you couldnt inject (you realize it isnt that hard to find out) why dont you try some anavar or winny (if you do do this throw in some liver protectors) or even some finasol. i belive this was discussed in an earlier post but wont anavar post cycle keep strength gains? dbol only isnt as bad as people make it but just realize its not going to be great. good luck bro.
 
My story

I was fine on adbol only cycle. Up about 10 lbs, lost about 4 or it, but only was on for about 4 weeks. Was the first cycle ever. The next cycle I stacked. I dont recommend it as a habit though.
 
I had the experience of d-bol only , I was afraid of injecting, it was a shitty cycle tried, 20mg day, (first cycle) shit didnt work for me, I will share a saying someone told me back then, "If you cant inject, then you shouldnt be using steroids." I bit the bullet and injected, it not bad at all. And I make nice gains now:D
 
thank you the only sepe, I must say people forget to realize that certain substances may work for one person but not well for the other, as my experience, all I get off dbol is some hardness and strength, no outrageous weight gains...............but this bro is saying he wants 30lbs, and he aint gonna get it off dbol only!! The stack I posted he may get 25 lbs at the most with 18lbs retainable, but hey guys on here think they know everything under the sun about roids and what they do, but for guys who are doing dbol only cycles, as far as Im concerned they dont know shit!!!!!! One guy claimed he did dbol for 4 weeks gained 10lbs and lost four lbs at the end, so for six fuckin lbs what was the point of takin anything, he could have got 6 lbs off creatine and andro!!!!!!!!! Here is a fuckin cycle:

deca
sostenon
finaplix
cypionate
winstrol
equipoise
enanthate Now this is a fuckin real cycle!!!1
 
hey cn1 we get your point there are better cycles however these options aren available to him so stop tellin him wats rong wit him. hes tryin 2 put together a cycle nd this is all he can do so try nd b supportive. bro jus hit the orals take anavar at the end nd run it 4 a few weeks all ur gains will stay intact
 
bro Im not trying to make a point, the least he could do is get some deca and sostenon to go with it, if hes gonna do steroids he better suck it up and take the injections, cause doing orals over and over aint gonna do shit for him........Im trying to help him out by stating what he should do, taking dbol only is like takin acid with no weed to smoke when your trippin! Hell he could atleast order some finaplix and rub it on with dmso!
 
CN1 said:
bro Im not trying to make a point, the least he could do is get some deca and sostenon to go with it, if hes gonna do steroids he better suck it up and take the injections, cause doing orals over and over aint gonna do shit for him........Im trying to help him out by stating what he should do, taking dbol only is like takin acid with no weed to smoke when your trippin! Hell he could atleast order some finaplix and rub it on with dmso!
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but he has already said he has had success with gaining and keeping mass on past dbol cycles. If he's happy with the results, why include more steroids in the picture? I realize he's one of very few who can cycle dbol-only and keep his gains, so others should not use this as a basis for their own cycles. He's basically a freak, in that sense. :)

But the only thing that should be of concern here is the liver.
 
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CN1 i hear what you are saying and you have some good points. What you are missing is that he has a set direction that he is unable to change at the moment. IMO we should help so he gets the best results in the safest way for the possibilities that are open to him.
IMO flaming his choice or his circumastances are not going to help him OR change his mind.
Are we not here to learn and share knowledge? if so then New Jack requires the information to his question. It seems to me he has researched and has come up with this as his only possibility and hence we must respect that.

Just my thoughts

Wrongun!
 
New Jack,
If you respond to dbol anywhere near as good as I do, you'll be fine. One thing though. Start the clomid 4-8hrs after your last dbol tab. Don't forget ala or milk thistle for the liver. I perfer ala. I'm also not a big fan of anti-e's since I think you gain more muscle while holding water and having a slightly elevated estrogen count. You will lose more (water) at the end of the cycle without anti-e's, but I think if you leave them out your total lbm gains will be better.
tprop
 
tprop said:
New Jack,
If you respond to dbol anywhere near as good as I do, you'll be fine. One thing though. Start the clomid 4-8hrs after your last dbol tab. Don't forget ala or milk thistle for the liver. I perfer ala. I'm also not a big fan of anti-e's since I think you gain more muscle while holding water and having a slightly elevated estrogen count. You will lose more (water) at the end of the cycle without anti-e's, but I think if you leave them out your total lbm gains will be better.
tprop
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Good advice, but just a few clarifications. Take BOTH ala and milk thistle, along with cranberry extract. And start your clomid about 10 hours after you take your last Dbol pill. The half-life of Dbol is about 3.5 hours. You want to begin clomid therapy after 2 half-lives, or after 7 hours. I added in 3 extra hours for the time for your stomach to dissolve and digest the pill.
 
some people have only so many options available to them. i am in a similar situation that i just graduated from college and live at home for the time being. my parents are nosey as shit so i can't get away with anything but orals and i can't get gear sent to my house. so what is a guy to do with only dbol and clomid available to me locally? there are so many mixed views on dbol only cycles but theres one thing i think is benificial about them.
before a newbie goes out there and starts with a heavy, stacked cycle with 4 kinds of gear, maybe it would be a good thing to experiment a little with a light, simplified cycle. that way you can see how your body reacts to AS, and practice the right lifestyle changes while on cycle before you go all out. basically you gotta crawl before you walk in my opinion.
thats my 2 cents
 
Thanks for the replies fellas!

Also, how much ALA should I be taking with this cycle? I bought a bottle of Twinlabs ALA, they are 50 mg. pills. I was thinking of taking 200 mg. a day and also some Milk Thistle that I bought.
Is 200 mg. too little or too much? And can I split the doses up throughout the day or do I have to take it all at once? Also how much Milk Thistle with this cycle is enough?
 
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Re: Thanks for the replies fellas!

New Jack said:
Also, how much ALA should I be taking with this cycle? I bought a bottle of Twinlabs ALA, they are 50 mg. pills. I was thinking of taking 200 mg. a day and also some Milk Thistle that I bought.
Is 200 mg. too little or too much? And can I split the doses up throughout the day or do I have to take it all at once? Also how much Milk Thistle with this cycle is enough?
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100mg-200mg per day is fine.....basically 2x the recommended dose, or a bit more.
 
CN1 said:
thank you the only sepe, I must say people forget to realize that certain substances may work for one person but not well for the other, as my experience, all I get off dbol is some hardness and strength, no outrageous weight gains...............but this bro is saying he wants 30lbs, and he aint gonna get it off dbol only!! The stack I posted he may get 25 lbs at the most with 18lbs retainable, but hey guys on here think they know everything under the sun about roids and what they do, but for guys who are doing dbol only cycles, as far as Im concerned they dont know shit!!!!!! One guy claimed he did dbol for 4 weeks gained 10lbs and lost four lbs at the end, so for six fuckin lbs what was the point of takin anything, he could have got 6 lbs off creatine and andro!!!!!!!!! Here is a fuckin cycle:

deca
sostenon
finaplix
cypionate
winstrol
equipoise
enanthate Now this is a fuckin real cycle!!!1
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6lbs in 4 weeks from andro and creatine. Me thinks not.
 
GUy's to keep things simple here, LISTEN TO TPROP !.

Dball only cycles work, pure and simple. There's too much 'cut & paste' info flying around here. If you've never done a particular cycle don't repeat someone's else's experience of it, or hearsay !.

Tprop, good advice.

Bouncer
 
the only time I touched anything was about a year ago and I did 30mgs of D-bol for 6 weeks. I gained 16lbs and kept all of it. When you come off the cycle be sure to train harder and eat better. Also, creatine would help to keep the gains. I found that EAS HP w/RIBOSE was best for me.

My strength went down a little not much at all. I had great success with it. I am starting SUS 250 and D-bol in the next couple of weeks.
 
CN1, damn!!! You need to lighten up. You're suggesting
a 4-5 AAS-stacking for a newbie????

New Jack:

- Don't worry, I completely kno where you come from since I did
orals-ony for 4 years because of similiar circumstances
as yours, so I'm probably the best person to help you.

If using orals only: You have to use them for 8-12 weeks
in order to solidify gains. If you use them for <6 weeks
you won't get as many gains as 8-12 weeks and you'll lose
more muscle than if you ran 8-12 weeks.

Why? Orals stimuate GH and IGF-1 production in the liver.
However, he stimulation INCREASES as tiime goes by.
So, by the end of the 8-12th week your GH and IGF-1
levels are MUCH higher than at 6 weeks, therefore
it is FAR easier to keep your gains.

Here are 3 easy newbie cycles:

The best: Winstrol at 40-50mg/.day for 12 weeks.

The second best: Anavar at 40-60mg/day for 12 weeks

The third best: Dball at 50mg/day for 12 weeks.

This of course is in terms of price/effectivity and safety.

Anavar is probably out as its too expensive for you.

So, that leaves winstrol or Dball.

So, the choice now becomes wether you want to
look nice and tight while still gaining muscle
or strong and bloated.

Another bonus is that anti-e's DO NOT have to be run with
the winstrol, only the dball.

Liver-protectants:(V. Important)

1. ALA at 600mg/day
2. 4-5.0L of water/day

Thats it. No other liver supps are necessary.
You do not have to buy 3-4 other because they don't do anything
ALA doesn't do.

So, to re-run everything:

Choice 1: Winstrol at 40-50mg/day+600mg ALA/day+
Clomid/Arimidex at the end.

Choice 2: Dball at 50mg/day+600mg ALA/day
+ Clomid + Arimidex throughout the cycle and
post-cycle.

Post-cycle= 4 weeks of 100mg Clomid/day+
0.25-0.5mg Arimidex/day

Choice 1 is cheaper AND better than 2 IMO. But, its your
choice.

Remember too, that the dball bloat will DEFINATELY
give others the impression you're on something.

Fonz
 
new jack

hey bro,
i started my cycle at 60 mg's dbol ed,tren 100mg's ed,after week #2 i started 400mg's test"e"per week, (i learned a lil something),
i use armidex and have novas to boot as well as clomid to come off.
i'm no expert and everyday i learn a lil more,but why put your body through the grind on just a dbol "cycle",at least throw in some fina bro.
this is just my .02
by the way i'm in week 5 of my cycle
 
new jack

if you take the dbol or any other oral for that matter
make sure you protect yourself,i use milk thistle,ala ,nac,and cranberry extract plus alot of h2o,as well as ester c,and e.
 
Fonz,
Oral cycles for 12 weeks? What about the liver? Have you gotten your levels checked when you were on for that long? I'm curious if the extra time puts as much excess strain on the liver as most people on this board believe.
 
No offense bro but 50 mg of dbol ed for 12 weeks would completely fuck my liver up. I'm sticking with 35 mg ed for 5 weeks pus 10 mg. of nolva from day 1 all the way to my clomid is through. I'm gonna take 600 mg. of saw palmetto all the way through also.

I just need to know is 200 mg. of ALA too little? They are 50 mg pills. Some people suggest taking 600 mg. That would be me taking 12 pills a day! I was thinking 200 mg of ALA and 200 mg. of Milk Thistle a day. Is that enough for taking 35 mg. of dbol a day? If not what is?

Also, do I have to split the ALA/MT dosages up or can I take all of it at one time during the day?
 
sorry bro, never done dbol only.

always stacked and my first cycle was test only.
 
New Jack said:
I just need to know is 200 mg. of ALA too little? They are 50 mg pills. Some people suggest taking 600 mg. That would be me taking 12 pills a day! I was thinking 200 mg of ALA and 200 mg. of Milk Thistle a day. Is that enough for taking 35 mg. of dbol a day? If not what is?

Also, do I have to split the ALA/MT dosages up or can I take all of it at one time during the day?
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200mg per day is fine....take 2 in the morning and 2 at night.
 
A few questions:

1. What benefits does taking clomid through out the cycle have, rather than just post cycle?

2. With the insulin mimicing affects that ala has, wouldnt it be more affective taking before meals?

3. Can/should creatine be used while taking dbol and does it in anyway help with keeping gains post cycle?

Thanx for any info,

Rebort.
 
dbol only is a total fucking waste.

Unless you want to get strong and big then lose it all after you quit taking it.
 
New Jack said:
No offense bro but 50 mg of dbol ed for 12 weeks would completely fuck my liver up. I'm sticking with 35 mg ed for 5 weeks pus 10 mg. of nolva from day 1 all the way to my clomid is through. I'm gonna take 600 mg. of saw palmetto all the way through also.

I just need to know is 200 mg. of ALA too little? They are 50 mg pills. Some people suggest taking 600 mg. That would be me taking 12 pills a day! I was thinking 200 mg of ALA and 200 mg. of Milk Thistle a day. Is that enough for taking 35 mg. of dbol a day? If not what is?

Also, do I have to split the ALA/MT dosages up or can I take all of it at one time during the day?
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There we go again!!!!


Another STUPID BB'ing myth.....

Run dball only for 5-6 weeks....

Just like the Milk Thistle BS.

LOL......you guys need to read more.

Do what you like then.

Fonz
 
My first cycle was an all dbol cycle. about ten years ago. long b4 you heard people saying you could only run orals for 4 weeks at a time. not sure where this came from only started hearing about this when I started reading the boards. My only source of gear info back then was a guy who was a strength advisor to olympic athletes and he also seemed to know a lot about gear and still does.

I ran dbol up to 50mg/day for 10 weeks gained 22lbs and kept all of it.

by all means take all the necessary precautions. but 8-10 weeks of dbol should not cause a problem for a healthy individual.

Charlie
 
I've done it

I've had luck with d-bol only & kept the majority of the strength and mass minus the water. It was nowhere near the results I get with taking test with it. But, nonetheless, if you train hard & eat will you should gain. I've only done it twice so I don't know if you can keep doing it and getting gains. What happens not only with d-bol but, other AS as well, is that people will train like hell & eat great while on, then when they finish their cycle, they aren't as intense when they workout and their eating habits decline. Like I said if you eat right and train hard I'll bet you'll keep a good portion of it.
 
I am as we speak (31/8/11) 2 days away from completing a D-bol only course (6 week course) i have to this point gained 26lbs i have been taking 30 mg ed of dbol with 25mg ed of proviron and intend to take 20 mg ed for 2 wks of nolva with terretris and 10 mg for the 2nd 2 wks pct. I took winstrol many years ago and that made me seriously bloat so i know what bloating looks like i have had no bloat on dbol, and my strength has increased quite a bit i have been eating around 5500 cal a day which has been the hardest part. My sex drive has gone through the roof, i hope i can kick my nat test production back in to gear quickly:) Just thought i would add my 2penneth. i am 33 by the way and weigh now 205lbs goto weigh myself at the end of the course so may be another couple of pound gained again i hope.
 
stevesmi said:
its hard not to have success with dbol only... its a great AAS. dummy proof as you can get. just take it and eat and work out. you will gain.
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Exactly, though I just realized this post is NINE YEARS OLD! And reading some of the posts it was a good reminder of some of the dummy's who controlled the board back then.
 
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