Has Anybody used the supplements "havoc" or "X-factor" fro the anabolic reference guide?

[solidspine]

What do you do for a living? Do you give everyone free service before they hire you?

There are plenty of good supplements. AIFM isn't one of them.

I manufacture and sell spinal implants for surgical fusion, many of my accounts do request, (require) a free trial on the first surgery, the total cost to my company normally exceeds 20,000 per surgery, and yes we will respect that request.

We believe strongly in the validity of our products and the improvement to the quality of our patient’s lives and in 15 years we have become very successful performing thousands of surgeries domestically and internationally.



I have had very good success with AIFM, I use it, and can say it works great as an anti – e on gear.


It would be hard for you to speak about AIFM, since I doubt you have tried it,


You need to be on a cycle, in other words taking gear, most of us here are doing that, I don’t think you are, it does not sound like you take gear, or use gear.

So it would not help you, you could try it as a hair spray.

And I say again most, as in the vast majority of supplements are not worth the money companies charge for them, they do nothing.

This in not empirical, but from personal experience. So my advice is don’t waste your money. It is like reading a book that has been cut and pasted together, or plagiarized. Normally not helpful.


Omega, Ulter and other manufactures have gladly provided free samples for evaluation.

Do you, oh why not?

I will evaluate any of your products just send me some free samples. Don’t you believe in your products?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Great, I'll take a couple of bottles of of Cabernet Sauvignon. And so will everyone else here.

The proof can not be if something DOES NOT work. (Prove doing a daily jig doesn't make the sun rise). The proof is if it does. Any blood test results using nothing but AIFM? Doubt it.

Apologies to s8. This was for solidspine.

 

[Nelson Montana]

You need to be on a cycle, in other words taking gear, most of us here are doing that, I don’t think you are, it does not sound like you take gear, or use gear.
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I HAVE USED GEAR AND WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS HAVE HAD MORE SUCCESS WITH THAN YOU. TRUE, WHAT YOU DO IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS IS PROBABLY WHAT I'VE DONE IN MY ENTIRE LIFE. DOES THAT MAKE YOU MORE KNOWLEDGABLE?


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So it would not help you, you could try it as a hair spray.

And I say again most, as in the vast majority of supplements are not worth the money companies charge for them, they do nothing.


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HOW WOULD YOU KNOW? YOU'RE THE ONE ALWAYS COMPLAINING ABOUT NOT HAVING EXPERIENCE WITH AIFM YET YOU SEEM TO BE SO SURE ABOUT THINGS YOU'VE NEVER USED. HYPOCRITICAL. AND DUMB.

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This in not empirical, but from personal experience. So my advice is don’t waste your money. It is like reading a book that has been cut and pasted together, or plagiarized. Normally not helpful.

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NOT A SINGLE SENTENCE IN EITHER OF MY BOOKS IS FROM ANYTHING CUT OR PASTED OR PLAGERIZED. DON'T LIE.

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Omega, Ulter and other manufactures have gladly provided free samples for evaluation.

Do you, oh why not?
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PROTEIN FACTORY DOES OFFER CUSTOMER SATISFACTION. WE TRIED OFFERING FREE SAMPLES ONCE AND IT GOT OUT OF CONTROL. FINALLY WHEN THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD (NOT THIS ONE) WERE UPSET FOR NOT BEING CHOSEN, THEY DECIDED TO BASH THE PRODUCTS. JUST AS I'M SURE YOU WOULD. IT WAS A ROYAL MONKEY FUCK.

WE'RE HERE TO DO BUSINESS. PF AIN'T MUSCLETECH. THE MARK UP IS VERY LOW. DON'T BE SUCH A CHEAP FUCK.

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I will evaluate any of your products just send me some free samples. Don’t you believe in your products?

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YOU'D BE A TERRIBLE CANDIDATE BECAUSE YOU'RE ON SO MUCH GEAR. AND SORRY, I DON'T TRUST YOU.

THERE ARE PLENTY OF UNCENSORED REVIEWS ON THE SITE. UNLEASHED GOT A 98% POSITIVE RATING. POST CYCLE 95% BIG BLAST 100% ZIP 95%.

OTHER PRODUCTS DIDN'T FARE SO WELL. HONESTLY, I DON'T LIKE THEIR VANILLA FLAVORING. I'D RATHER FLAVOR IT MYSELF WITH VANILLA SYRUP. I'D ALSO ADD MORE COCOA TO THE CHOCOLATE. THE NATURAL ORANGE SUCKS BUT THE TROPICAL ORANGE IS AMAZING. SO I'M BEING HONEST HERE. THERE ARE A LOT OF GUYS HERE WHO WILL BE USING UNLEASHED AND POST CYCLE AND I'M SURE IF THEY SUCK THEY'LL LET EVERYONE KNOW. I HAVE COMPLETE CONFIDENCE BECAUSE I KNOW THEY WORK.

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[solidspine]

Montanans rants are really getting old fast, and so boring and tiresome, did he say he was in his forties, or did I read that wrong,

Maybe he meant he was in the fourth grade, either way I will be ignoring his future useless posts, even though they are coming from mommies bedroom.

I HAVE USED GEAR AND WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS

Yes that’s what it would be a guess, but at least it is not cut and pasted, or plagiarized.

HOW WOULD YOU KNOW? YOU'RE THE ONE ALWAYS COMPLAINING ABOUT NOT HAVING EXPERIENCE WITH AIFM YET YOU SEEM TO BE SO SURE ABOUT THINGS YOU'VE NEVER USED. HYPOCRITICAL. AND DUMB.

Ah not only calling names but ranting, much like a little girl, stop typing in all caps.
Where did you get your information, from your dreams

I have been using AIFM and other substances for quite a while, so I ask again where did you get your information,

Like everything else?

NOT A SINGLE SENTENCE IN EITHER OF MY BOOKS IS FROM ANYTHING CUT OR PASTED OR PLAGERIZED. DON'T LIE.

To quote you --I DON'T TRUST YOU.



Not a lie, but a statement of my opinion if you don’t like it prove it incorrect. Otherwise to quote you don’t lie

WE'RE HERE TO DO BUSINESS. PF AIN'T MUSCLETECH. THE MARK UP IS VERY LOW. DON'T BE SUCH A CHEAP FUCK.

Again no information, no explanation, simply calling names a cheap F***,
Did you plagiarize that or can I quote that as an actual thought?

YOU'D BE A TERRIBLE CANDIDATE BECAUSE YOU'RE ON SO MUCH GEAR. AND SORRY, I DON'T TRUST YOU.

Apology not accepted. Since you called me a cheap F***, I wonder if that isn’t’ self descriptive.



It is not surprising that you have been kicked off so many boards, oh by the way what other name are you using on this board, to post? Is it Ross?

You little buddy is being sued for plagiarizing and lying, you are argumentative, just lack crediablity & knowledge. Surprised you are not also being sued,

You should invest in a Dale Carnegie course, or maybe an anger management course.

I wish you would just leave the board, and take your misinformation somewhere else. Maybe try C&C, This board you may have not noticed is for body builders not ego maniacs who are self infatuated.

You simply have nothing to offer. Adios Amigo!

PS: That is Spanish just in case you want to plagiarize it.

 

[solidspine]

nudiebarbouncer

Please ignore nelson montana for high jacking your post he is very arrogant, and could care less about your question. Only cares about his answer, usually does not read the question because it would confuse him.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Yes that’s what it would be a guess, but at least it is not cut and pasted, or plagiarized.Not a lie, but a statement of my opinion if you don’t like it prove it incorrect. Otherwise to quote you don’t lie

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YOU'RE A ROYAL MORON. ACCUSING SOMEONE OF PLAGERIZING ISN'T AN OPIONION, IT'S A LIBALOUS STATEMENT. THE ACCUSATION MUST BE PROVEN. WHAT ARE YOU CLAIMING I PLAGERIZED? ONE DOESN'T PROVE "NOT" PLAGERIZING YOU IDIOT.


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It is not surprising that you have been kicked off so many boards, oh by the way what other name are you using on this board, to post? Is it Ross?

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YEAH, I PRETEND I'M ROSS SO I CAN HAVE DISAGREEMENTS WITH MYSELF.

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You simply have nothing to offer. Adios Amigo!

PS: That is Spanish just in case you want to plagiarize it.

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WOW, I NEVER HEARD THAT BEFORE. YOU'RE SO CLEVER. IT'S SO OBVIOUS -- WHENEVER SOMEONE CAN NOT BACK UP THEIR POINT WITH LOGIC THEY RESORT TO INSULTS AND ACCUSATIONS. IF THIS ISN'T GROUNDS FOR BEING BANNED, I'M NOT SURE WHAT IS.

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[Anthony Roberts]

Bro, you work for protein factory? I just ordered post cycle and unleashed...tell me about them and using them properly??????????

I am going to tell everyone if they suck!

hahaha

Seriously, I am going out on a limb to try these products, Nelson knows this. I am also going to use derma. I will be honest and fair in my reports as no one is paying me!

I work for Protein Factory as a supplement designer but that's really being an independant contractor. Alas, I did not design those supps...you're going to have to talk to Nelson about using them properly.

I designed MyoGenX and CyoGenX, and we've never paid anyone to use them, or even given away a free bottle, as far as I know.

 

[Big_Joe]

Re: Has Anybody used the supplements "havoc" or "X-factor" fro the anabolic reference

nudiebarbouncer

Please ignore nelson montana for high jacking your post he is very arrogant, and could care less about your question. Only cares about his answer, usually does not read the question because it would confuse him.

From a third party view I think it's you that high jacked the post. Are you going to contemplate what I said or are you going to spew venom at me.

I think Omega is right, should have brought some popcorn.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

Re: Has Anybody used the supplements "havoc" or "X-factor" fro the anabolic reference

From a third party view I think it's you that high jacked the post. Are you going to contemplate what I said or are you going to spew venom at me.

I think Omega is right, should have brought some popcorn.

Given the fact that he badmouths Nelson and myself on websites where we are not even active members (actually...everyone who has been attacking he and I also attack us on sites where we are not active), isn't it kind of a given that they will attack us on this site, where we actually are active?