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Has Anybody used the supplements "havoc" or "X-factor" fro the anabolic reference guide?

Havoc is another is the latest prohormone substitutes created by who knows who, who knows where, with who knows what. I never liked that stuff. Too chancy. For non drug anti-e's stick with natural substances.

X-Factor is Arachidonic acid. It may have some validy but I've never noticed any difference form using it. It's cheaper to just buy baby formula.
Check it out: http://www.nutrition.nestle.ca/en/our_products/infant_formula/good_start_omega3_6
 
Most supplements including the ones on this site are pretty useless, so don’t get too excited about any thing,

I like some of Omegas products and they give you a boost, I also like AIFM,


But 99 percent of all these supplements are bunk.

You are better off spending your money on some vitamins and good food.
 
Any company with a good reputation will also give you free supplements to try, if they stand behind their product it is a simple investment.

If they can’t give you something free to try, it is not worth the effort, buy food and vitamins
 
solidspine said:
Any company with a good reputation will also give you free supplements to try, if they stand behind their product it is a simple investment.

If they can’t give you something free to try, it is not worth the effort, buy food and vitamins

What do you do for a living? Do you give everyone free service before they hire you?

There are plenty of good supplements. AIFM isn't one of them.
 
solidspine said:
Any company with a good reputation will also give you free supplements to try, if they stand behind their product it is a simple investment.

If they can’t give you something free to try, it is not worth the effort, buy food and vitamins

Many companies will not give you a free sample of their product to try before you decide to buy it, and many of them are reputable. Protein factory, who I work for, offers money back as does EliteFitness, as far as I understand their policies. There is no risk to the consumer in this way, and they're not giving out samples to people who will never make a purchase.

As far as the original question, Havoc (Epistane products) seem to be under fire right now as to their legitimacy, and I don't feel Xfactor is really worthwhile.
 
Nelson Montana said:
What do you do for a living? Do you give everyone free service before they hire you?

There are plenty of good supplements. AIFM isn't one of them.


I work for a winery, we always give out free samples of new products. I would like to see you PROOF about AIFM not a little drama fest. I stand behind AFSTORE 100%, I'll even give Omega benefit of the doubt 'cause people I trust have liked the AMP02 (even if its pushed like crack, :rolleyes: )
 
Anthony Roberts said:
Many companies will not give you a free sample of their product to try before you decide to buy it, and many of them are reputable. Protein factory, who I work for, offers money back as does EliteFitness, as far as I understand their policies. There is no risk to the consumer in this way, and they're not giving out samples to people who will never make a purchase.

As far as the original question, Havoc (Epistane products) seem to be under fire right now as to their legitimacy, and I don't feel Xfactor is really worthwhile.


Bro, you work for protein factory? I just ordered post cycle and unleashed...tell me about them and using them properly??????????

I am going to tell everyone if they suck!

hahaha

Seriously, I am going out on a limb to try these products, Nelson knows this. I am also going to use derma. I will be honest and fair in my reports as no one is paying me!
 
s8nlilhlpr said:
I work for a winery, we always give out free samples of new products. I would like to see you PROOF about AIFM not a little drama fest. I stand behind AFSTORE 100%, I'll even give Omega benefit of the doubt 'cause people I trust have liked the AMP02 (even if its pushed like crack, :rolleyes: )

Great, I'll take a couple of bottles of of Cabernet Sauvignon. And so will everyone else here.

The proof can not be if something DOES NOT work. (Prove doing a daily jig doesn't make the sun rise). The proof is if it does. Any blood test results using nothing but AIFM? Doubt it.
 
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