**hard Core Cutter**

[galaxy]

This isnt something i made up. It was given to me by a guru who trains some national level guys and pros. Just figured id post it up here:

weeks#1-4
250mg sustanon and 250mg test enenthate or cypionate on mon-wens-friday
200mg e.q. on monday wensday friday
150mg tren on tuesday and thursday
30mg d-bol per day or 50mg anadrol per day
4IU GH per day(please take this 2 hours after your last meal right before bed)
4iu humulin-r 2 times per day on monday and thursdays only(please drink 1 carbo force or carbo rush drink with each shot)
50 mcg t-3 per day
60mcg clenbuterol per day
50mg proviron per day
1 tab arimadex EOD
20mg nolvadex per day

weeks #5-6
we are going to take a break as we will kick in
2500iu HCG every 3 days in weeks #5-6
tribistan brand tribulus 1500mg per day
50mg clomid per day
1-AD 2 capsules 3 times per day
80mcg clenbuterol per day

weeks #7-12 will be as follows bellow
600mg deca per week
800mg test prop. per week
50mg winstrol-v EOD
4iu GH per day
1/2 tab arimadex per day
100mg proviron per day
50mg masteron per day
100mg primobolan depot EOD
2 tablets of "jacked" fat burner 3 times per day(no clenbuterol during this period)

weeks #13-16
150mg tren EOD
100MG winny-v EOD
100mg test suspension EOD
100mg primobolan depot per day
75mg proviron per day
30mg nolvadex per day
30mg anavar per day
1 tab arimadex per day
80mcg clen per day
100mcg t-3 per day
2iu GH per day( we will drop this 2 weeks out)
20mg haloteston per day
600mg e.q. per week

 

[DieselGunz]

Holy Shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[galaxy]

So u think id get cut if i did that?LOL

 

[Wulfgar]

eh, its really not that much if you think about it


i think i got leaner just reading that post

 

[sparetire]

why would you only run deca for 5 weeks? it usually doesn't kick in until week 6...but dam, that's one hell of a cycle - though, i wouldn't risk the t3

 

[itlnstln]

So u think id get cut if i did that?LOL

Hey Galaxy - want me to try that out and post results?


lol

 

[galaxy]

why would you only run deca for 5 weeks? it usually doesn't kick in until week 6...but dam, that's one hell of a cycle - though, i wouldn't risk the t3

My thoughts on that are that hes trying reach a certain anabolic level to androgen and all that stuff. Of course im just assuming.

And as far as the 6 week rule goes. The stuff starts working from day one. There is no magic mark to when this stuff starts working. Now seeing actual results. thats different. But again, you got a bunch of shit in your system with this cycle so im assuming the deca is just helping to reach a certain androgen to anabolic ratio.

 

[ego boner]

jesus tits that is a big wallet bill, but hey who needs natty test?

Ego Boner

 

[galaxy]

What is this natty test you speak of? LOL

 

[itlnstln]

What is this natty test you speak of? LOL

????????????

 

[Tux]

Natty test? Is that like a new breathalyzer that can tell if you've been drinking Natty light instead of Michelob Ultra or something?

 

[galaxy]

Wow, i havent heard natty light mentioned in years. All i used to drink back in the day. Was like water.......That would be kinda a good name for a beer huh? Bud test.LOL

 

[itlnstln]

Wow, i havent heard natty light mentioned in years. All i used to drink back in the day. Was like water.......That would be kinda a good name for a beer huh? Bud test.LOL

Can you drink it?

 

[bdavester]

This isnt something i made up. It was given to me by a guru who trains some national level guys and pros. Just figured id post it up here:

weeks #5-6
we are going to take a break as we will kick in
2500iu HCG every 3 days in weeks #5-6
tribistan brand tribulus 1500mg per day
50mg clomid per day
1-AD 2 capsules 3 times per day
80mcg clenbuterol per day

2500iu every 3 days is a typo right ?


My bad, i tought it was GH

 

[MR. BMJ]

I don't really like much of the set-up in that cycle, but I don't know his motive either. A lot of the stuff doesn't make sense to me by looking at the lay-out. I mean, you can justify anything to look good on paper and to appear effective with sound reasoning, I just don't know what it is with this. I can only assume things as well.

That isn't saying it isn't effective or wouldn't work, I just think, from what I can see, it could be better.

Thanks for posting that Galaxy. It is indeed interesting.

BMJ

 

[iHulk]

and the cost of that cycle is. . . . ?

might as well throw some bull spunk in there for good measure. lol!

 

[timtim]

seems like the author l. rea principles are mixed in there. that is a pretty serious run for 16 weeks. galaxy, are you going to running this?

 

[Wulfgar]

seems like the author l. rea principles are mixed in there. that is a pretty serious run for 16 weeks. galaxy, are you going to running this?

I was getting the same feeling. I like L. rea's stuff. Guy is amazingly knowledgable and a really nice guy actually. His shit is pretty hardcore but he doesnt pull any punches when he tells you what it takes to be a pro

 

[slat1]

I have seen some cycles some of the pro's use and they are HUGE! I have seen some that are VERY small too though.
I saw one where the guy said to take 600mgs of anadrol a day. Thats right... a day!
I will not even touch on the 3cc's of test ent and 16iu's of GH either. Those were both the daily doseages too!!!

 

[*test-me*]

I have seen some cycles some of the pro's use and they are HUGE! I have seen some that are VERY small too though.
I saw one where the guy said to take 600mgs of anadrol a day. Thats right... a day!
I will not even touch on the 3cc's of test ent and 16iu's of GH either. Those were both the daily doseages too!!!

I think you'd get cut from not being able to afford food after buying all that.

 

[krishna]

Do it bro!

 

[little chris]

Hey Galaxy I see you keep your clen dosage from 60-80mcg. how does that work for you cause 120 was kicking my ass. I was getting anxiiety attaCKS WITH IT

 

[galaxy]

The lean pics in my gallery i was running 80mcg of clen.

 

[toxicsambo]

holy mutha of mercy! that's a fkn cycle bro. I like the idea of 2 weeks rest in between, seems very interesting. Go for it. Then tell me where your pot of gold is hidden because that cycle can buy a used car.lol

 

[galaxy]

Oh, im not doing this. It was just given to me to do. Just figured id post it up here. I put it up on AB but figured Id share here too

 

[the-short-one]

Oh, im not doing this. It was just given to me to do. Just figured id post it up here. I put it up on AB but figured Id share here too

I'm assuming the carb drinks with the insulin are so a guy won't put himself in a coma? Sorry if this is a stupid question - but I know you have to be careful with insulin.

 

[galaxy]

only a dumbass who takes in no carbs and decides to take a nap could slip into a coma. The most dangerous thing about slin is turning into fat bastard.

 

[bigrand]

anadrol for cutting........again, im a drol whore

 

[the-short-one]

only a dumbass who takes in no carbs and decides to take a nap could slip into a coma. The most dangerous thing about slin is turning into fat bastard.

it happens tho. which means there are a lot of dumbasses, I guess. I am familiar with using insulin to cheat and drop a body into ketosis, but am unfamiliar with it's use any other way.

 

[galaxy]

I beleive people in hollywood use insulin to cut also.

 

[Ulter]

This isnt something i made up. It was given to me by a guru who trains some national level guys and pros. Just figured id post it up here:

It's dosed like an idiot drew it up. That's too bad that someone is out there giving bad advice at that level. The roller coaster ride their blood levels are taking while doing that must be causing some wicked side effects.

 

[galaxy]

Ulter your in a fantasy world if you think any of these pro bbs gives a shit about even blood levels. Flex Wheeler is on record saying he took whatever he was given. No rhyme or reason. Seems the only ones who care about even blood levels are people on chat boards from what ive noticed...............I did a bulker by this idiot with over 4 gs of test and a gram of deca and had no sides aside from the usual.

Not trying to offend, im just saying. U really think Ronnie gives a fuck about taking his dbol is 5 divided doses throughout the day. He probably just gulps down a handfull a couple times a day.

I know for one im the king of doing certain drugs one week and just switching it up the next for a couple and then again changing it a couple weeks later again. Shit i do var for 10 days and then just stop. hasnt given me any different sides then when i was doing 500mgs of test a week.

 

[galaxy]

Now psychosis? I may suffer from that.LOL

 

[Ulter]

I know more about what they use and how little they know than you ever will. I am not in a fantasy world. Nor did I say they care. I said it's too bad that people at that level are taking bad advice. They always have and they always will.
However, my comment was directed at your contention that "National Level Guys" use this cycle. None that I know. But it's too bad if they do.

 

[galaxy]

I know more about what they use and how little they know than you ever will. QUOTE]

I have no doubt many dont know what there doing.I think your taking me too literally. Sorry, i was just talking to you like a friend. hmmm maybe thats why i dont have too many friend. ......But seriously, i think we make too much out of dosing schemes.

 

[cityhick]

I know for one im the king of doing certain drugs one week and just switching it up the next for a couple and then again changing it a couple weeks later again. Shit i do var for 10 days and then just stop. hasnt given me any different sides then when i was doing 500mgs of test a week.

Your fuckin a machine bro. No one can tell you that you are wrong in that because look at your results.

 

[Destroyer1986*]

It worked for me...............

 

[Baywatch69]

There are no rules for cycling, what works for one may not work for another, I know alot of guys who run SHIC cycles (Short high Intensity Cycles)

Here is an example:

Days
1-10 500mg Test E ED, 150mg Drol ED
11-20 400mg Deca / 300mg Primo ED
21-30 200mg Testabol prop / 150mg Stanabol ED

There is no right and wrong way! If it works for you then great

 

[cityhick]

It worked for me...............

You saying you ran that cycle?

 

[Ulter]

I know more about what they use and how little they know than you ever will. QUOTE]

I have no doubt many dont know what there doing.I think your taking me too literally. Sorry, i was just talking to you like a friend. hmmm maybe thats why i dont have too many friend. ......But seriously, i think we make too much out of dosing schemes.

We make of it the same thing that the medical community does. There is a reason that drugs are dosed the way they are. Side effects, especially from tren, are usually the result of spikes that your body can't handle. And then if you're going to throw all the rest of that into the mix you're just asking for trouble. I didn't know you didn't have many friends. I'll be your friend. lol

 

[The_Chemist]

We make of it the same thing that the medical community does. There is a reason that drugs are dosed the way they are. Side effects, especially from tren, are usually the result of spikes that your body can't handle. And then if you're going to throw all the rest of that into the mix you're just asking for trouble. I didn't know you didn't have many friends. I'll be your friend. lol

So iyo, what is the best dosing scheme for tren. Ill be running it for the first time, and plan on just running 75mgs/day.

 

[Destroyer1986*]

You saying you ran that cycle?

LOL, no. The only thing I could probably afford on that list is test e at 800mg per week. .

 

[Ulter]

So iyo, what is the best dosing scheme for tren. Ill be running it for the first time, and plan on just running 75mgs/day.

You're plan is fine. It's the EOD dosing that is wrong.

 

[The_Chemist]

You're plan is fine. It's the EOD dosing that is wrong.

Just out of curiosity, what is the half-life of tren.

 

[Ulter]

Bill Roberts says 28 hours. The problem is that it's not for humans so I don't believe it's been measured in humans.

Tren 75mg/day

Tren 150mg/EOD

 

[krishna]

Bill Roberts says 28 hours. The problem is that it's not for humans so I don't believe it's been measured in humans.

Tren 75mg/day

Tren 150mg/EOD

I love seeing that pic of bunny in your siggy everytime you post. She's got a body to die for.

 

[Advisor_x]

hard core Galaxy.....

 

[Triple J]

ya like for testosterone level i think keeping blood levels somewhat even is important but for most AAS it is not as important, mixing things up acts like more of a stimulus and keeps the body from accommodating .. at least that's my theory. for instance i have run ongoing patterns of very low dose monthly cycles that were effective even they were roller-coaster rides. but the duration of time was over the year, you were basically on 2/3 time, low-dose at 20 days on 10off. you never really recovered but could keep gaining and like i said the dosages were really low, so when you eventually came off it was not that drastic.

now my question and its also cause i don't have direct experience with short esters like prop, is that it seems these short esters are used more for cutting, they keep you drier than long esters, that is something i do not really understand. can anybody enlighten me? is it in fact the more inconsistent blood levels that result in less bloat? cause that would be just the opposite of what i experience with long esters.

lastly i think it interesting the time of day of the GH dosing. galaxy you have said this before and based on my limited application running 2iu for about six months last year I kinda inclined to agree with this. you just sleep so damn good with that nightly inject.

 

[Makavelli]

That cycle is hilarious! There's no reason to be taking AAS in such a complicate manner. Everytime I talk to these "gurus" I always ask them why they switch esters when it's the same parent drug? And why they make things so complicated when it's really not so? They never have a reason for it. They just go off what has been done for decades. Very cutting edge...

 

[Outtlaw]

You're plan is fine. It's the EOD dosing that is wrong.

Why do you feel it's wrong? Because of the increased risk of sides from irregular blood levels? Because somebody chooses to dose a drug in a manner that can cause their blood level concentrations to vary from an even plane makes it wrong?? BTW, every bodybuilder is wrong when it comes to their use of gear to begin with, because the drugs were never intended to be used and abused like we use them. It's like saying heroine should be shot ED, because to do it EOD is just WRONG.

And no offense bro, but what somebody computed on their calculator means nothing to me. People love to break out these graphs of their scientific calculators to show how things work in the human body... which does not necesarily funcion by the same rules of a mathematic equation. I rely on real blood test results and/or scientific studies done on groups of people.

 

[Outtlaw]

That cycle is hilarious! There's no reason to be taking AAS in such a complicate manner. Everytime I talk to these "gurus" I always ask them why they switch esters when it's the same parent drug? And why they make things so complicated when it's really not so? They never have a reason for it. They just go off what has been done for decades. Very cutting edge...

I was also thinking it looked over complicated. Too many multiple injects when it could be much simpler.

 

[galaxy]

Just for those who missed it. THIS IS NOT A CYCLE I CREATED OR DID..........Just posting it for entertainment. Ill be posting a 6 week blitz cycle and a off season cycle also in the future for out viewing entertainment.

 

[bigmouth2006]

There are no rules for cycling, what works for one may not work for another, I know alot of guys who run SHIC cycles (Short high Intensity Cycles)

Here is an example:

Days
1-10 500mg Test E ED, 150mg Drol ED
11-20 400mg Deca / 300mg Primo ED
21-30 200mg Testabol prop / 150mg Stanabol ED

There is no right and wrong way! If it works for you then great

interesting i have never here of this i would like to here some results from someone that has tried it

 

[galaxy]

Ive tried every thing else so i might as well give it a try. Ill do it like this since this is what i have on hand:

1-10 500mgs LSP cyp ed/ 150mgs var ed
11-20 400mgs LSP deca ed/250mgs EQ ed
21-30 200mgs test suspension ed/150mgs BD winny ed

I think i may do 10 days of halo also at the end?

 

[Baywatch69]

Good stuff Galaxy, let us know how you find it, I know many over here who only run SHIC style cycles

 

[galaxy]

Do they take 4 weeks off? Or do they bridge with low doses of test or EQ?

 

[Destroyer1986*]

Let us know how this cycle goes galaxy........................

 

[bigmouth2006]

Ive tried every thing else so i might as well give it a try. Ill do it like this since this is what i have on hand:

1-10 500mgs LSP cyp ed/ 150mgs var ed
11-20 400mgs LSP deca ed/250mgs EQ ed
21-30 200mgs test suspension ed/150mgs BD winny ed

I think i may do 10 days of halo also at the end?

yeah keep us posted

 

[bigrand]

Ive tried every thing else so i might as well give it a try. Ill do it like this since this is what i have on hand:

1-10 500mgs LSP cyp ed/ 150mgs var ed
11-20 400mgs LSP deca ed/250mgs EQ ed
21-30 200mgs test suspension ed/150mgs BD winny ed

I think i may do 10 days of halo also at the end?

Thats 500mg test, 400mg deca ED? ED? ED?
not together, but still, thats 3.5G test a week? 2.8G deca?

I couldnt not even begin to fathom that shit, ill take 500mg deca a WEEK!

Is there honestly that much difference from those doses and say 1G test a week max? I mean does the body really use THAT much gear?

I could make cycles for the next three yrs off that shit!

 

[bigmouth2006]

Thats 500mg test, 400mg deca ED? ED? ED?
not together, but still, thats 3.5G test a week? 2.8G deca?

I couldnt not even begin to fathom that shit, ill take 500mg deca a WEEK!

Is there honestly that much difference from those doses and say 1G test a week max? I mean does the body really use THAT much gear?

I could make cycles for the next three yrs off that shit!

yeah that's a lot of juice that's why i started the other thread to see what kind of experiences people have had with higher dosages

 

[Outtlaw]

Ive tried every thing else so i might as well give it a try. Ill do it like this since this is what i have on hand:

1-10 500mgs LSP cyp ed/ 150mgs var ed
11-20 400mgs LSP deca ed/250mgs EQ ed
21-30 200mgs test suspension ed/150mgs BD winny ed

I think i may do 10 days of halo also at the end?

I like high doses. But that's too heavy a cycle for me, not to mention the 30wks straight part. But I'd be interested to see how it works out. My cycle right now basically consist of as much dbol as I can choke down in a day with a maintanence dose of test.

 

[Baywatch69]

Outtlaw, the cycle is in days not weeks

 

[Outtlaw]

Outtlaw, the cycle is in days not weeks

Well , guess I missed that point somewhere. Good thing though, cause you'd have to be crazy to run a cycle like that.... not to mention the cost involved . I tried the 30day blitz cycle before (not quite as high on the doses), but it didnt work so well for me though.

 

[AAP]

I wasn't impressed with it. The clen and T3 dose is very very low. I know lots of people who take a lot more than that. You can tell the pros who really do a lot as they always show up with chest sweat stains and armpits stains everywhere they go.

Also, every single pro I have ever talked with has always told me the same thing they did for their cycles. For 16 weeks, they start the first six weeks androgen loading with test and anadrol and the remaining ten weeks is strictly a high level of anabolics, EQ, winstrol, anavar, tren, etc..