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jakey165

jakey165

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Hey guys,

was thinking about doing an eq/test cycle but after some friendly advice from some of the boyz in a previous thread im gonna give it a miss.

now im thinking of maybe just taking halo at 20mg a day before a fight then 40 mg on the day of the fight. do you guys think I would be ok for that considering my stats and would I need a pct?

my stats are

age - 21
height - 6 foot
weight - just under 170
cycle history - none

any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. thanks a lot guys. :)
 
If is non tested be fine would start a week out give it a chance to take real affect. I've done a test of it at 15 mg for 8 days and really liked it. good aggression drive and no real weight gain.
What weight you fighting at? 155
 
hey man,

ye fighting at 155. so you think I should do an 8 day run at it? would I need pct after that? did you seem an increase in strength/power or just aggression?

thanks buddy
 
You're going to mess with your hormones too much brotha. Stick to Dylan's plan an you will be good. Don't touch the stud yet and grow in naturally first. Just want to see you healthy is all. Trust me I know TONS of guys who did gear at your age and even had bloods done before, after and then 6-8 months later and their natural levels never got back to where they started (and some of them had decent pct's. Not unleashed and post cycle but other things which still work, but not going down that road right now). At 6' you should get up over 200lbs (215+ lbs even better) before you should even consider touching the stuff. Give yourself at least 2 years of hard natural training and proper diet and you will be amazed at what you will accomplish. I saw your diet before and you are a WAY under eating, with as much training and intensity as you are going at you should be eating 3,500+ clean calories a day. Try doing that and watch your weight go up and your recovery increase as well. Add Glutamine and a good creatine in there and you should be good. For a extra punch in calories n2bulk will help and big blast post workout will really help with recovery.

I had a post in here and the diet section that's a really good read also, sorry on phone now so you will have to go look for it.

Hope this helps. Not trying to put you down, just trying to help and keep you healthy.
 
Yeah he is. I still think at 6' should consider bulking to at least 170 weightclass and walk around 185.
I noticed a nice boost in explosiveness and strength and felt little better cardio to push longer.

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That's all well and good but there are other ways to increase strength without taking aas.
 
What the hell is it with all the posts of guys who are in MMA and they all want to take gear to get ahead. How about being a real fighter and going to the gym and eat sleep and train all day!

No offense or anything bro but how would you like to find out your in a title fight and you lose to a juicer?

Kind of like Anderson Silva fight Chael Sonnen.

And technique and skill will always surpass some random figher on roids.

Just my 2 cents, not hating.

Good luck with what ever you do.
 
I've been around top mma gym and almost all are running stuff from HGH to test and especially in higher end amateur when not much testing and trying make it. It doesnt help as much as would think for me cus was already strong and pumps fucked me over with wrestling so stopped. was nice off season add muscle to be big at weight class. With your age and not sure where your at might competition level wise and skill set etc. probably not the best option yet. Also depends on style of fighter how much aas will help and natural strength level etc.
I'd just recommend S4 SARM for you right now, DAA helped me some as well and is cheap.
 
The guy asked a legit question, everyone else who posted in this thread is just running their mouth spewing out silly hearsay from people who haven't even used halo.

Here's the appropriate prereq's:
1. At 21 do you think you've stopped growing? Sure height is one thing, how about other areas?
2. Answer no to Q1? then dont do any AAS
3. Answer yes to Q1? then sure, you can put whatever you want in your body, but there will always be consequences.
4. 20mg Halotestin will increase your aggression and strength without adding too much mass
5. 4 weeks of 20mg/day of Halo would be fine, 40mg taken all at once before fight (1-2hours before) will increase aggression.

Longer than 4 weeks you run the risk of drying out joints too much, liver damage, and other side effects common with extreme androgens (enlarged heart, blood pressure...).

Will it help you make the right decisions in a match? Sometimes androgens have us take unnecessary risks, or just be downright crazy. Tyson bit off Holyfield's ear; it was rumored he was on cheque drops at the time (even more androgenic than halo).


I know on Halo I have a tendency to be a huge asshole, even moreso than with Tren.
 
training700 said:
I've been around top mma gym and almost all are running stuff from HGH to test and especially in higher end amateur when not much testing and trying make it. It doesnt help as much as would think for me cus was already strong and pumps fucked me over with wrestling so stopped. was nice off season add muscle to be big at weight class. With your age and not sure where your at might competition level wise and skill set etc. probably not the best option yet. Also depends on style of fighter how much aas will help and natural strength level etc.
I'd just recommend S4 SARM for you right now, DAA helped me some as well and is cheap.
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ok thanks a lot man. Il probably wait to do a long cycle then, but I still wanna do some halo and those cheque drops pre fight. so if I do an 8 day run at 20mg (40 on day of fight) would I need a pct afterwards? and does it help your cardio as well? i didnt even know that, thats awesome! ive already ordered s4 sarm :)
 
UA_Iron said:
The guy asked a legit question, everyone else who posted in this thread is just running their mouth spewing out silly hearsay from people who haven't even used halo.

Here's the appropriate prereq's:
1. At 21 do you think you've stopped growing? Sure height is one thing, how about other areas?
2. Answer no to Q1? then dont do any AAS
3. Answer yes to Q1? then sure, you can put whatever you want in your body, but there will always be consequences.
4. 20mg Halotestin will increase your aggression and strength without adding too much mass
5. 4 weeks of 20mg/day of Halo would be fine, 40mg taken all at once before fight (1-2hours before) will increase aggression.

Longer than 4 weeks you run the risk of drying out joints too much, liver damage, and other side effects common with extreme androgens (enlarged heart, blood pressure...).

Will it help you make the right decisions in a match? Sometimes androgens have us take unnecessary risks, or just be downright crazy. Tyson bit off Holyfield's ear; it was rumored he was on cheque drops at the time (even more androgenic than halo).


I know on Halo I have a tendency to be a huge asshole, even moreso than with Tren.
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Hey man,

thanks a lot for that. Yeah Im pretty sure i've stopped growing. would I still be able get increased aggression and strength if I just do an 8 or so day cycle? or even just the 40mg on the day of the fight? because i would prefer not to have to get too much sides from it. how much risk is there with a 4 week cycle on halo and would I have to do a pct?

thanks for your help :)
 
I would much rather you run a sarms stack than anything else... there's just no point in messing with your hormones at all at your age... its just stupid man... i will say all the facts that ua iron gave you about halo are in fact true but that does not mean its okay for you to be taking any sort of hormone or aas... its just not a good idea at all... i dont give a fuck what anyone else has done at that age or says, its not smart at all... with sarms, your risking only very slight supression, you are going to see increases in strength, quicker healing and recovery, very nice muscle hardening with s4 and if you add gw, a major increase in endurance (which would be very helpful in your fights)... I will help you set up a sarm stack anytime... just send me a pm and i'll get you all set up... trust me though, i am only looking out for your best interest, stay aways from the ph's and aas for now...
 
8 days you probably wouldn't really need it cus not supressed bad but I would still run something light such as a natural test booster. unleashed, bridge (have liked and used), or hcgenerate friend is really liking it, came off a full blown 4 month cycle but is the most expensive option. I would especially if add cheque drops as well they put a lot of estrogen in you as well lol good for aggression tho night before/day of on top of the halo. Halo would probably be enough though with aggression, I don't have personal experience with the drops.
It helped my cardio because of increased aggression and drive more focus etc to keep pushing through it and extra pop so to speak.
 
I've ran s 4 and am running gw and REALLY have enjoyed benefits. Will be stacking them soon. For me not sure if will even use a steroid again for my goals. maybe halo leading up to something or a really mild cycle.
 
jakey165 said:
Hey guys,

was thinking about doing an eq/test cycle but after some friendly advice from some of the boyz in a previous thread im gonna give it a miss.

now im thinking of maybe just taking halo at 20mg a day before a fight then 40 mg on the day of the fight. do you guys think I would be ok for that considering my stats and would I need a pct?

my stats are

age - 21
height - 6 foot
weight - just under 170
cycle history - none

any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. thanks a lot guys. :)
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Bro my li'l brother fights at your weight, boxing & kickboxing. He's fought people we knew were on 'roids and he still beat them. At the end of the day it comes down to skill, mental attitude and preparation.

Personally, at your age taking performance enhancing substances is cheating IMO, cheating yourself as well. Don't you want to see how good a FIGHTER you are? If you win whilst juicing won't you wonder at all? I would.

When you get to my age and natty levels start to drop and you find yourself being beaten to the punch by kids half your age who don't have the same skills, just the advantage of youth THEN use something to give you an edge.

I don't hate you mind! Lol! I never really bothered about all my opponents who were using cos I still beat em. Just my 0.02 on the subject.
 
You never ever EVER do anything for the first time during fight week...EVER!
 
huge thanks to everyone giving there advice. im new to this site and wasn't expecting this much support, its awesome! yeah dylangemelli if u could help me with a sarms/g4 stack that would be great, thanks man!

to everyone calling me a cheat for what I am doing, yeah i guess your right but if you want to make it big in this sport (just a dream, i'm not saying its deffo gonna a happen) its pretty much a necessity coz all of the top level fighter I know are on something now or have used in the past. I know some fighters have never used and they have my absolute respect but im not as naturally gifted as they are.

thanks again guys :)
 
b fold the truth said:
You never ever EVER do anything for the first time during fight week...EVER!
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best advice yet

you have no idea how it will effect:
your mental state... you might freak out, get emotional, go too crazy

your weight cut.. what if it bloats you up? it can happen

cramps/pumps..

gas tank .. wanna gas out 2min in???

etc etc etc

your first cycle should be right after a fight when you have time to run it, learn from it and then make adjustments for next time..
 
hmm couldnt see all the posts..

you got some good advice.. hope you follow it this time and next time you have a question.

good luck
 
jakey165 said:
huge thanks to everyone giving there advice. im new to this site and wasn't expecting this much support, its awesome! yeah dylangemelli if u could help me with a sarms/g4 stack that would be great, thanks man!

to everyone calling me a cheat for what I am doing, yeah i guess your right but if you want to make it big in this sport (just a dream, i'm not saying its deffo gonna a happen) its pretty much a necessity coz all of the top level fighter I know are on something now or have used in the past. I know some fighters have never used and they have my absolute respect but im not as naturally gifted as they are.

thanks again guys :)
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Bro I think I was the only one who thought you were a cheat ;)

I understand why you want to do it, and there's an old army saying "if you ain't cheating you ain't tryin hard enough" although it's my opinion that's all it is. Don't think I hate you or think badly of you. I don't think cheating is terribly wrong, I mean I used to train in an old garage with a punch bag, little multi gym with some free weights and my brother as my sparring partner, it was equally unfair that most of my opponents trained in well equipped gyms with a variety of training partners. There will never be a completely level playing field and when it comes down to it, the better the players/fighters perform the more the spectators will enjoy it. I don't think "be the best you can be" means only do it naturally. I mean creatine is a performance enhancing substance but that's allowed, I've used creatine since I was 18 when hardly anyone knew about it so I was cheating too. Having said that I had plenty of bouts before ever touching creatine or even protein powder. :)
 
Good luck with your fight by the way. It'd be great if you could record it and upload it to YouTube. I'd love to see it. :)
 
UA_Iron said:
The guy asked a legit question, everyone else who posted in this thread is just running their mouth spewing out silly hearsay from people who haven't even used halo.

Here's the appropriate prereq's:
1. At 21 do you think you've stopped growing? Sure height is one thing, how about other areas?
2. Answer no to Q1? then dont do any AAS
3. Answer yes to Q1? then sure, you can put whatever you want in your body, but there will always be consequences.
4. 20mg Halotestin will increase your aggression and strength without adding too much mass
5. 4 weeks of 20mg/day of Halo would be fine, 40mg taken all at once before fight (1-2hours before) will increase aggression.

Longer than 4 weeks you run the risk of drying out joints too much, liver damage, and other side effects common with extreme androgens (enlarged heart, blood pressure...).

Will it help you make the right decisions in a match? Sometimes androgens have us take unnecessary risks, or just be downright crazy. Tyson bit off Holyfield's ear; it was rumored he was on cheque drops at the time (even more androgenic than halo).


I know on Halo I have a tendency to be a huge asshole, even moreso than with Tren.
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I disagree I grew from 5 foot 9 to 6 foot 1 and half from. Age of 21-23
 
Make sure don't connect video to this site in anyway.. I wouldn't bother more than let guys know if won or lost..
Better safe than sorry.

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