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Had a long chat with my dad tonight

Lestat

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Sorry this is a completely self indulgent post.

So my dad is 57 (I'm 31) and we chat a couple times a month or so. We usually don't talk too much religion or politics. Believe it or not, if we avoid those topics, we agree on most everything. I have his strong work ethic, logical mind, and sense of humor.

He's also VERY religious, got caught up in the born again movement of the late 70s and 80's.

So today we talked about a ton of stuff. Gun control, abortion, morality, slavery, muslims, homosexuals, and more! Here are some points he drove home.

1) US slave owners didn't treat slaves as well as the media portrays. They treated them as valuable property and did not want to harm them in any way.
2) The feminist movement undermined modern society just as many other social reforms undermined other great powerful societies. He doesn't think women are equal, they are obviously not as physical strong, which even today, is important. They have certain aptitudes and general tendencies and opinions that are rarely shared with men.
3) Abortion is wrong. The whole "controversy" isn't anyting more than man's guilty and trying to justify selfish behavior. Discarding any fertilized embyos, such as in a fertility clinic, is wrong as well.
4) Capital punishment is warranted after due process though
6) Humans have a purpose on this earth and a divine plan. When we deviate from it and serve our own self interest's, things go wrong for everyone.
7) In 4 generations Mexicans will be the most common "race" in the U.S.
8) People are not animals and its fundamentally wrong to equate them to animals in any way. We are allowed by God to eat them, but forbidden from abusing them.
9) Guns make innocent people safer. Its the criminals that are for gun control to take them out of the hands of the law abiders that will defend themselves. Its a God given right to own one.


It was quite the talk. I caught a couple of Bill O'reilly catch phrases in there too.
 
DannoMight said:
my dad and i just started talking more about 5 years ago. he not very religious though.


for me--i talked to him as long as my mom was alive---after that--well,, so sad, to bad, drop dead you miserable batatges.
 
eddymerckx said:
for me--i talked to him as long as my mom was alive---after that--well,, so sad, to bad, drop dead you miserable batatges.
wow man, not happy times with him growing up and what? I can say my dad tried his best. Not perfect, but who is? I don't hold anyone to a standard higher than I hold myself.
 
Lestat said:
wow man, not happy times with him growing up and what? I can say my dad tried his best. Not perfect, but who is? I don't hold anyone to a standard higher than I hold myself.

mine tried--(he had what they called back in the 30s/40s a "broken home" so he just did not learn how to parent. when the time came to step up to plate after my mom died and help my sis he just did not manup. that was enough for me---i figured in life, i would not like him or even talk to him--f*ck blood, actions speak much louder.

but if you and your dad get along now--that is awesome--some say nothing better--for me, i am blessed with great inlaws and good mentors.
 
eddymerckx said:
mine tried--(he had what they called back in the 30s/40s a "broken home" so he just did not learn how to parent. when the time came to step up to plate after my mom died and help my sis he just did not manup. that was enough for me---i figured in life, i would not like him or even talk to him--f*ck blood, actions speak much louder.

but if you and your dad get along now--that is awesome--some say nothing better--for me, i am blessed with great inlaws and good mentors.
you are like me in that you focus on the positive.
 
Lestat said:
Sorry this is a completely self indulgent post.

So my dad is 57 (I'm 31) and we chat a couple times a month or so. We usually don't talk too much religion or politics. Believe it or not, if we avoid those topics, we agree on most everything. I have his strong work ethic, logical mind, and sense of humor.

He's also VERY religious, got caught up in the born again movement of the late 70s and 80's.

So today we talked about a ton of stuff. Gun control, abortion, morality, slavery, muslims, homosexuals, and more! Here are some points he drove home.

1) US slave owners didn't treat slaves as well as the media portrays. They treated them as valuable property and did not want to harm them in any way.
2) The feminist movement undermined modern society just as many other social reforms undermined other great powerful societies. He doesn't think women are equal, they are obviously not as physical strong, which even today, is important. They have certain aptitudes and general tendencies and opinions that are rarely shared with men.
3) Abortion is wrong. The whole "controversy" isn't anyting more than man's guilty and trying to justify selfish behavior. Discarding any fertilized embyos, such as in a fertility clinic, is wrong as well.
4) Capital punishment is warranted after due process though
6) Humans have a purpose on this earth and a divine plan. When we deviate from it and serve our own self interest's, things go wrong for everyone.
7) In 4 generations Mexicans will be the most common "race" in the U.S.
8) People are not animals and its fundamentally wrong to equate them to animals in any way. We are allowed by God to eat them, but forbidden from abusing them.
9) Guns make innocent people safer. Its the criminals that are for gun control to take them out of the hands of the law abiders that will defend themselves. Its a God given right to own one.


It was quite the talk. I caught a couple of Bill O'reilly catch phrases in there too.
just goes to show you that the pattern of persona is not based on genetics... but yeah... wow, my dad is pretty conservative but he could care less about what I think and he's happy that I'm allright... course I don't advertise that I still smoke out occasionally, but thats due to more of cultural, I'm a first generation filipino born here, and the nuclear family transcends just about everything else... I only get into arguments with my mom about religion, she is a staunch roman catholic, and when I was 17, I kept arguing with the priest that jesus didn't die for anyones's sin... a metaphorical concept I get now, but rather he died cause he was killed. Thats what murder victims do, they die. They finally accepted that I was not going the route they were, but that took alot of struggle. I just assumed your old man was some dan fogelberg granola eatin dude.
 
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