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hello to everyone.. new to the forum.....just want to say thanks in advance for ur responses... so im starting my 3 week today on my first cycle. last night my nips felt like they had a sunburn or something.. both of them and the right one.. the part of the nipple that nips out was like swollen and just felt weird.. like a cut or sunburn.. and im wondering if it could be beginings of gyno.. i took a arimidex before going to bed and one this morning just in case...as far as i know my cycle has been pretty light.. it looks like this..

1cc of test prop. eod
1cc of tren. eod (my understanding is that tren doesnt aromatize.. so that wouldnt be a problem, would it?)
3 to 4 dbols 10mg daily

what should i do?, should i quit the gear? keep going aand just take arimidex? is that even gyno?...
 
That is not a light cycle man!! Tren on first cycle??? I would message needtogetaas and he'll hook u up with a good gyno prevention plan !! Research is crutial before u start a cycle buddy
 
ill pm him...thanks a lot... i thought it was a light cycle?..shit!!..lol.... its only about 800-900 actives a week.. why is tren bad on the first cycle?.. do u think that sensation is gyno?.. i texted a friend and he said thats not how it feels..so who knows.. i had bought a book and read about it.. "anabolic gameplan".. some of the example cycles there ar higher than mine.. idk.. like i said.,. new to the roids usage even though ive been or was a natural for like 11 years.
 
Thats a BIG!! Cycle Bro. I wish u luck getting things under control. May be thee tren giving u the issues. Do u have Caber on hand ? Man I hope so

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holy shit!!!.... should i cut it down to .75cc of prop and .75 of tren and 2 dbols?.. what do i do?.. im supossed to inject today.. ok.. ill just pop another arimidex tonight.. i cant just flat out cut them right?.. ok.. so.. as for today... what do i do?
 
ok.. so i have 30 more arimidex.. i read in the book i bought (anabolic gameplan) that u can take 7 pills for a week (one a day) and then .5 the rest of the cycle... does that work... ?
 
you are confused as to what tren is or does.

yes it doesn't convert to estrogen, however your prolactin and progesterone levels are gonna go sky high on it, which will bring on gyno.

this is why tren is a bad idea for a newb. unfortunately you are learning the hard way.

you never run tren or deca without forma, prami, or caber. EVER EVER

gotta do more research bro before juicing for your first time!!! right off of drugprofiles.com : Although it doesn’t convert to estrogen, trenbolone being a nandrolone derivative does act on the progesterone receptor and can cause related side effects because of this trait. Progesterone side effects are similar to those of estrogenic side effects and can include things such as bloat and gyncomestia . Because of this, users of trenbolone might want to consider running an agent such as bromocripten or cabasear in order to combat possible progesterone related side effects
 
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You need dostinex and or forma stanazol if the issues are from Tren,if its from test you need arimidex,if your taking 1 arimidex daily (Thats too much) drop back to 1/4 tab ED. this is the bad thing about running multiplible compounds first cycle,you make a mess trying to fix problems not knowing which one is causing it.
Thats why we recommend a test only,after you know how you react to that ,then next cycle graduate to a test/deca cycle and so on............
 
Learn and read about steroids before planning your next cycle, do you even know what a proper PCT looks like?

As said before trenbolone does not give gyno by aromatising into estrogene, but by prolactin og progesterone. You need drugs as Bromo or Cabar for those two, you could try using some OTC products to combat the side-effects... And as said before, you are going to learn to hard way, becouse of your own fault not investergating into what steroids are and do before using them... Hope you dont end up with gyno and even worse a surgery.
 
Man first you need to calm down bro you are not going to fix this today. You did not do your research and now you will pay the consequences. Drop the Tren and if it were me I would drop those gynobols you are taking to. Run the test prop and the a-dex at a 1/4 tab like Radar said and symptoms should subside. Once you do that you will know how your body reacts to test. Then you can add a compound like dbol on the next one. Then you can add another. See the pattern here. You can't fix what you do not know, therefore you take aas in steps.
 
it takes a couple days before the symptoms disappear, i did tren n dbols too first cycle and used armidex, eod and the symptoms were gone
also i'd stop taking it cuz wuts the point if you get gyno.. not worth it at all
good luck
 
... thanks eveyone for your responses .... so yesterday i had shots amd i dropped the tren and only did the propionate and the dbols, i took a arimidex this morning too just in case.. and i will reduce the intake to .25 ed, cuz i have been taking them the past 2 days. i believe its not comming from the test or the dbols because there is no lump in the nipple and they dont hurt if i press them, the burning sensation is gone but the right nipple (the part of the nipple that sticks out) is a bit bigger and still looks sort of whiteish... so i have been recomended several drugs for this issue.. too many to the point that im comfused on what to get or even it its the same drug just different name (like saying dbol to dianabol).. can i please have the actual names to the drugs that would help on this issue?...lowering progesterone and prolacting...

pct... yes... i am informed of how the pct should be , hcg, clomid, arimidex.. i bought a book off this site (anabolic gameplan) and read it all before starting.. nothing was mentioned about using tren and the needed "blockers" for it or pregesterome reducers or stacking several of them in the first cycle... let alone all the bragging about tren "being so beautiful - nectar of the gods and all that " because it doesnt aromatize...

......stats; im 30 tears old, around 5'7 close to 187ish right now, started at 180 (not fat.. close to 6% bodyfat..) i have been a natural for 11-12 years, competed many times.. i have won nga, inba and npc competitions, 12 trophes all 1st places but 2 seconds and one 4th, couple overalls, etc.. just didint want to be a natural anymore.. u guys know how it is..

anyway.. thanks again for all ur replies.. if i could please get the actual name of these drugs or even a legit website to get them it would be awesome!!
 
ok so i just read about cabergoline or dostinex... whats a good website to get it at?... i also called my doc. asked if he could prescribe it to me.. he's supposed to call me back soon.... i know this statement sounds weird... lol.. but im actually on it on legal paper.. he just said id have to find the tren on my own.
 
Most people only run testosterone for a first cycle because then you would know which compound is causing the problems when something like this occurs. That said this isn't a huge cycle when you look at the doses. 350mgs/ week of test & tren with 30mgs dbol daily. More then I ran my first cycle for certain. I wouldn't expect problems from 350mgs a week of testosterone. 30mgs of dbol is fairly mild too compared to what I've seen many people run. But some people are sensitive to certain compounds and you could be one of them. Tren is a nor-19 steroid. It can cause prolactin issues. If you start lactating you are probably not going to be very happy with your decision to run tren.
 
swm1972 said:
Most people only run testosterone for a first cycle because then you would know which compound is causing the problems when something like this occurs. That said this isn't a huge cycle when you look at the doses. 350mgs/ week of test & tren with 30mgs dbol daily. More then I ran my first cycle for certain. I wouldn't expect problems from 350mgs a week of testosterone. 30mgs of dbol is fairly mild too compared to what I've seen many people run. But some people are sensitive to certain compounds and you could be one of them. Tren is a nor-19 steroid. It can cause prolactin issues. If you start lactating you are probably not going to be very happy with your decision to run tren.
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yeah.. i dont think the test and the dbol are causing any sides.. got adex in hand and i plan to do .25 from here on daily..now about the tren....would you advise to still run tren once i get the caber or fix this issue or should i look at other options for my next cycle? also.. what is the daily doses for caber?
 
I didn't run tren until my fourth cycle. First was pure test at 500. Second was test at 750 with dbol 30mgs daily. Third was my first serious cycle. Test 1.5 grams, deca 500 mgs, proviron 50 mgs a day, winny 50 mgs a day for the first 4 weeks. Fourth was test prop and tren ace @ 100mgs a day. I'd save the tren for another day down the road. At the very least don't run it until you have prami or dosinex on hand.
 
so symptoms are starting to lighten up a bit.. the tip of the nipple isnt white anymore.. but its still a bit swollen.. and fucking hate it rubbing against my shirt.. no pain.. just annoying... the doc said that he could not prescribe cabergoline to me because id be at risk of "stroke or heart attack".. is this true?... i took a shit load of b6 yesterday i know its mild but i want to think its better than nothing.. so i just told asked the receptionist to ask the doc.. what i could take for lowering progesterone and prolacting levels.. and im still waiting to hear back... as for today.. i got another shot of prop (1cc eod) and doing 30mg of dbols. .. i think im just gonna finish my cycle this way for the next 5 weeks, ive put on about 8 pounds since i started, thanks swm1972 for ur reply and eveyone else.

also.. if i decided on at the end of the 4th week to swich to a oral winy instead of dbol would that be a bad move?.. how about eq for the 2nd cycle? does gyno from eq can be fixed with arimidex? or what would i need? after pct (for 4 weeks) if not mistaken.. how long should i wait for in between cycles?
 
You want to go through all this for 8 pounds ??? buddy drop the cycle !! Ur obviously not eating right at all or ur routine is off
 
mm! how can that be? today is only the 3 day of my 3dr week on it.. im looking for quality gains not a bigger shirt.. how much should i be weighing right now then?.. im on 7-8 meals a day with 40-50 ish grms or prot. on 250 carbs a day and about 75 fats a day.. monday: shoulders-traps -calves, tuesday; biceps-tris wends; abs- quads-hams thrusday; lats- midback friday: upperchest-lowermiddle chest, saturday; abs- light biceps. at least 9 sets x7-10 reps per muscle group.. what can i improve?
 
i know my protein is way high.. around the 280ish to be more accurate daily.. but ive noticed that i have to increase my prot. more than my carbs.. specially when i get ready to compete and get ripped.. im not white.. people from different races run a bit different.. for example.. whole wheat bread blows the fuck outta me in seconds and makes me blowted lol..., id trade that slice for 2 or even 3 corn tortillas in a heartbeat.. or even popcorn, not wheat.. any latino brothers in the house with the same issue?.. and i was like 3 and eating harcore tacos in mexico at taco stands.. lol... but anyway.. i doubt im off my diet.. im known in utah at natural associations competing for how ripped i get and maintaining size... unless the nutrition on gear is completelly way high on carbs..
 
I don't see anything wrong with 8lbs in three weeks. In fact people that gain enormous amounts of mass in their cycles are in my opinion people who jumped on gear earlier then they should have. People that are closer to their natural limits will only gain the amount of muscle that the steroids will carry them beyond their natural limits. I see guys claiming they gained 40 lbs in a cycle. First thing that crosses my mind is this is a person that used gear as a short cut to, rather then a tool in an overall plan to carry them beyond what they could achieve naturally.

I don't see anything wrong with your diet or training.
 
stevesmi said:
you are confused as to what tren is or does.

yes it doesn't convert to estrogen, however your prolactin and progesterone levels are gonna go sky high on it, which will bring on gyno.

this is why tren is a bad idea for a newb. unfortunately you are learning the hard way.

you never run tren or deca without forma, prami, or caber. EVER EVER

gotta do more research bro before juicing for your first time!!! right off of drugprofiles.com : Although it doesn’t convert to estrogen, trenbolone being a nandrolone derivative does act on the progesterone receptor and can cause related side effects because of this trait. Progesterone side effects are similar to those of estrogenic side effects and can include things such as bloat and gyncomestia . Because of this, users of trenbolone might want to consider running an agent such as bromocripten or cabasear in order to combat possible progesterone related side effects
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Great advice! Definitely read up at drugprofiles.com
 
yeah..... i guess tren on that first cycle was a bit retarted. lol.. im sticking to prop and dbol till the end.. i took 0.25 of arimidex this morning and im gonna keep it that way for the following 5.5 weeks.. i also ordered clomid and hcg yesterday to have stuff ready for pct.. i ordered cabergolin online (for future cuz i got a shit load of tren), my dr. said he couldnt just prescribe it to me cuz it could cause heart attacks or stroke..i googled it qucik and didnt see anything about it.. who knows??... syptoms are 99.9 gone.. no more white, no sensitive or nothing.. just a bit swollen...but i read that it will eventually go away!.. dick still works lmao!!.. close call..... anyway... what is the dosage of the cabergoline??... is it .25 twice a week?.. read a couple different sugestions and got me confused..
 
swm1972 said:
I don't see anything wrong with 8lbs in three weeks. In fact people that gain enormous amounts of mass in their cycles are in my opinion people who jumped on gear earlier then they should have. People that are closer to their natural limits will only gain the amount of muscle that the steroids will carry them beyond their natural limits. I see guys claiming they gained 40 lbs in a cycle. First thing that crosses my mind is this is a person that used gear as a short cut to, rather then a tool in an overall plan to carry them beyond what they could achieve naturally.

I don't see anything wrong with your diet or training.
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thanks.. yeah ive been bodybuilding naturally for 11-12 years.. and i think i got to my natural limits.. (170 contest ready).. 190-210ish as a max off season.. i just want more now.. minus this incicdent.. i feel pretty awesome at the weightroom.. strengthe went up.. its great.. i should have jumped on it 5-6 years ago.. lol
 
xnatural_builder said:
thanks.. yeah ive been bodybuilding naturally for 11-12 years.. and i think i got to my natural limits.. (170 contest ready).. 190-210ish as a max off season.. i just want more now.. minus this incicdent.. i feel pretty awesome at the weightroom.. strengthe went up.. its great.. i should have jumped on it 5-6 years ago.. lol
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Good luck with your cycle. You are really going to love the results tren produce if you can tolerate the sides. I'd save it for a few cycle down the road. Tren is simply the most powerful steroid you can use. The changes will blow your mind.
 
yes.. thats what i read thats why it was my fist choice..lol.. symptoms are gone thank goodness.. idk what it was.. but took lots of b6 anyway.. i was going to ask.. : so caber lowers prolactin levels.. what about the progesteron? ... i read winstrol helps with that..true or not... idk... but i rather ask before i screw it up again..... i was thinking for when i do tren later ; ill have caber along with it and arimidex to try try to keep progesteron low by keeping estrogen low.. but what else could i do for the progesterone?
 
xnatural_builder said:
yes.. thats what i read thats why it was my fist choice..lol.. symptoms are gone thank goodness.. idk what it was.. but took lots of b6 anyway.. i was going to ask.. : so caber lowers prolactin levels.. what about the progesteron? ... i read winstrol helps with that..true or not... idk... but i rather ask before i screw it up again..... i was thinking for when i do tren later ; ill have caber along with it and arimidex to try try to keep progesteron low by keeping estrogen low.. but what else could i do for the progesterone?
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I'm not sure about the progesterone control issues. I've honestly never had any issues running tren personally and have not ever had to use caber or prami. I've had it on hand though just in case. Maybe someone else can chime in here. I wouldn't count on any steroid (such as winny) being a reliable ancilliary. I've head anecdotal references to winny being utilized for estrogen control. I think it maybe possible this is true, but you certainly wouldn't want to rely on something like this instead of adex or something similar.
 
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