Gyno from primo/var.... also adding masteron...

[Vascular Freak]

I have been using var and primo at 40mg ed and 600mg weekly respectively. Lately (after 4 weeks) my test levels "feel" low and I feel like I may be holding water. My question is, could the water retention and nipple sensitivity be due to the fat that my natural test is low and is trying to compensate by preoducing more estrogen? I am planning on adding masteron for the final 3 weeks, and also adding in weekly hcg shots to help restore test a bit. Does anyone have opinions on this? I didn't think primo or var could casue any type of estro sides??

 

[Smokescreen]

Your body can't make E without Test first. My opinion is that you probaby do NOT have primo at all. But rather EQ or some low dose Test.

 

[sparetire]

start taking your hcg now.. I usually hold a bit of water and nips get puffy towards the ends of my cycles that include eq. Carth might be right that your primo isn't primo. Primo doesn't aromatize at the proper dosages. Run some a-dex or nolva in there asap.. If your nips are sensitive, use nolva - puffy -a-dex.

 

[Vascular Freak]

The primo is schering primo from a trsuted source. I am trying to figure out if primo at 600mg ew or var at 40mg ed could be doing it. I assumed out of the two drugs the var is lsightly androgenic and could be causing slight water retention, puffiness in the nips etc?

I will be adding in some masteron soon which is a good anti-e, and I also wanted to add some liquidex but was afraid of lipid profiles and cholesterol when taken along with anavar? Any thoughts?

 

[Neo22]

hcg is going to make your gyno0 worse.

 

[satchboogie]

primo at 600mg may cause very very SLIGHT bloat.. i say VERY minimal!!!
when i ran 1000mg a week, i had slight bloat too.. but definitely no sensitivity in nipples!!!

alot of times, hardness and fullness can be mistaken for bloated...

 

[Smokescreen]

You know....the Primo really could be NOT primo at all. Honesty! And the var might not be var. But instead Dbol?????

You just maybe too sensitive to drugs that aromatize. I mean...they say primo doesn't aromatize. But I have seen many bros thoughtout my years using Primo and NEVER EVER NEVER!! Being ripped! They always held a little bit of water. And some books that I read do say that it does convert to E. But VERY VERY VERRYYYYY LITTLE!!!

Heres one more thing to think about. Your diet might not be so great! Did you ever think about that?

 

[Vascular Freak]

my nips are very sensitive to changes in hormone levels since I have puffy nips from puberty. I feel lean and throughout my whole body except for my chest and lower back which leads me to belive that my T:E ratio is undesirable.

I added in a little arimidex at .25 mg eod to see if it is actually bloat that I am experiencing, or if it is cause the slight increase in calories that I incorporated into my diet?? I appreciate all the opinions, keep em coming.....

 

[Vascular Freak]

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